alrighty- have been recording mixes for a while now, and never had this problem: basically was mixing tiesto - walking on clouds and when i listened to the recording, the entire peak part at the end has disappeared. sometimes you can hear it faintly, but generally its just not there.
im using sound forge 4.5e, but i also tried it with CDEX & audcity with the same result. have mucked around with all the software settings i can think of. no luck.
my soundcard is an onboard Soundmax, and have never had any problems with it before. whilst im not an expert, i aint no bunny either, and have been tweaking all the settings on my PC that i can think of, still no luck.
any ideas please guys??
Cheers.
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Sep-20-2004 01:52
Luke Cartwright
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We had a problem like this on my mates computer and found out that one of the channels on his mixer was fcuked, when we touched one of the channel faders the sound only came out of one speaker hence the sound drop. Fiddle with yr channel faders whilst recording a random tune and see if there is a drop anywhere.
Also I have had some problems with feedback whilst recording try tightening yr headshells to see if there is a loose connection there.
Bar those I can't reallly think of other solutions, is your problem just with that track or when you get to a certain time whilst recording?
Sep-20-2004 11:48
pkcRAISTLIN
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nah, all the connections are fine. the tune still plays fine out of the speakers, and perhaps i should've been more specific in my description- its only the peak synth thats missing- the bass, drum & highhats are all there! just the synth is non-existent. its got me stumped.
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Sep-20-2004 22:58
Dervish
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To be honest I'm not sure. But it sounds like some part of your setup or recording method/compression(this before or after compression i.e. -->mp3?) is taking out or attenuating (making less loud) a certain set of frequencys within the recording.
And since your hearing it in the speakers on your setup it sounds like it's not your needles and probebly not your mixer, tho it'snot impossible i.e. if your using a seperate out for rec.
So is this before or after compression? Also what are you using to listen to the recordings (cos it could just be shit PC speakers with a shit responce)?
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Sep-21-2004 00:42
pkcRAISTLIN
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I dont do any compression, i record it straight into wav format.
have tried using my line-in & mic ports on my soundcard- makes no difference. im listening to the recording via winamp & windows media player thru headphones (HD-25s, so no worries there). i use either the booth or the tape connections on my mixer (DJX700) for the output.
im recording in 16bit 44100 (soundforge 4.5 doesnt allow more than 16bit).
is there anything special about the synths of walking on clouds? coz ive recorded almost my entire collection (about 50 vinyls) at one time or another and never experienced anything like this.
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Sep-21-2004 01:15
Dervish
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I've not actually heard the song to be honest. But this problem is weird.
Now I'm not even sure if it is some prob with the frequency responce.
But if I were you I'd try listening to the song through the headphones on the PC directly that is not recorded(you possibly have actually).
Then if it is ok there it must be something to do with the recording or perhaps the sound.
If it's not ok it could either be the cables used (I'll be honest I'm grapping at straws a bit here), or more likely the sound card (maybe some eq setting some where or possibly just a rubbish ADC/DAC?).
Thats a point actually if it does still happen when played directly try recording it to CD and playing that in something else. If it works ok then it's the conversion from digital to analouge thats the prob (or sound card playback settings) if not it is some cable/soundcard adc issue.
This is a right b*tch tho, but I bet it turns out to be some tiny little simple thing too!
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Sep-21-2004 04:12
pkcRAISTLIN
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cheers mate. will try everything you suggested when i get home tnite (and no doubt come whining tomorrow morning when i get back to work).
thanks for your help!
EDIT: slutty butt ****** so i tried fucking about with it some morel- you cant hear it if you listen straight thru the headphones when its playing live. so i recorded & saved it and played it in a CD player. cant hear it then either.
a new soundcard perhaps? i knew onboard sound was a crappy idea!
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Sep-21-2004 04:20
pkcRAISTLIN
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*shameless bump*
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Sep-23-2004 09:40
tu_face
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Originally posted by pkcRAISTLIN
nah, all the connections are fine. the tune still plays fine out of the speakers, and perhaps i should've been more specific in my description- its only the peak synth thats missing- the bass, drum & highhats are all there! just the synth is non-existent. its got me stumped.
sounds like the mid eq is fucked. is it a hardware mixer you are using..?
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Sep-23-2004 11:51
pkcRAISTLIN
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Have narrowed it down a bit. I tried some different cables- 3 RCA to 3 RCA (i was using 2 RCA to 1 RCA) and the problem disappeared. Of course tho this ends up with the recording being mono, which i dont want. but am gonna go back to the store and buy a converter thingy.
Thankyou all for your help
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Sep-26-2004 04:45
DJ_Ampz
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Location: Guelph (again)
There is such a thing called phasing, where the two beats happen to be EXACTLY opposit. therefor it would sound like nothing. Mixing it with another song at the same time? if you put it "off" does it make a thum-thump deal?
yeah, know about phasing, but im talking about synths, not bass beats.
interestingly enough- the if you unplug either the right or the left channel, the synth can be heard, plain as day. but as soon as both are plugged in, it disappears. so ive found a small work around. tho im still stumped as to why this would be the case!!