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Crazy Serb
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Registered: Jun 2001
Location: Sin City
I dunno about you, but this is pretty impressive to me...

If you haven't heard of Sun.com's project Looking Glass (the 3D Operating System), watch this and tell me you're not impressed by this stuff:

http://webcast-east.sun.com/ramgen/...-1312_01_225.rm


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rabbitjoker
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Registered: Aug 2002
Location: Toronto, ON, CANADA

Sun is going to owe Eastman Kodak a whack of cash in a few weeks.

I wonder if any of that technology was used to create this.

Very interesting.


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VERTiG0
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Registered: Dec 2003
Location: no longer Cambridge, Ontario, Canada

Damn realplayer!

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Crazy Serb
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Registered: Jun 2001
Location: Sin City

quote:
Originally posted by rabbitjoker
Sun is going to owe Eastman Kodak a whack of cash in a few weeks.

I wonder if any of that technology was used to create this.

Very interesting.


what's Eastman Kodak got to do with Sun's Java?

And that's apparently going to be open source OS as well, so... another plus.


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dEsidEL
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Registered: Aug 2000
Location: Below the Belt

quote:
Originally posted by VERTiG0
Damn realplayer!




+1


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jdjd
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Registered: Aug 2002
Location: sf

Lame.. What they showed offers no benefit as far as usefullness of an OS.

While I'm at it, yes RealPlayer is THE WORST software ever made!

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malek
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Registered: Nov 2001
Location: Montréal

i looked at it with a bunch of senior IT guys at work and everyone laughed at its uselesness....

i mean whats the big deal? just there to awe the geeks.


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rabbitjoker
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Registered: Aug 2002
Location: Toronto, ON, CANADA

quote:
Originally posted by malek
just there to awe the geeks.


Say "awwwwwwwwww".


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rabbitjoker
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Registered: Aug 2002
Location: Toronto, ON, CANADA
Sun / Kodak

Could Kodak Cool Off Java?
Penelope Patsuris, Forbes.com 10.05.04, 11:15 AM ET

NEW YORK - Eastman Kodak is not a name that's synonymous with software, but the photography giant is now at the center of a court case that could be pivotal for that industry.

Late on Oct. 1, a jury found in favor of Kodak (nyse: EK - news - people ) in a dispute in which it alleged that Sun Microsystems (nasdaq: SUNW - news - people ) infringed upon Kodak patents with its Java programming language. Although Sun has said it will appeal the decision, the jury will first hear Kodak's case for damages. It's asking for $1 billion. Even worse: Kodak's claim asks the court to enjoin Sun from using the Java technology pending the case's appeal.

"That would be really draconian," says Amy Landers, a law professor at the University of the Pacific. "Then Sun would have to retool Java."

Sun issued this statement in response to the decision: "Although disappointed by the jury's finding of infringement, we believe that we will be successful in the damages phase of the trial. We hope to reach a decision that will be in the best interest of shareholders, customers and Sun."

A Kodak spokesman said it would also persevere. "We have invested millions across a host of intellectual properties, and we have an obligation to our shareholders to protect that," he said.

This case will likely bounce around the judicial system for years, but it is already raising big and very alarming questions for the software industry. Because Java is a programming language that Sun lets developers essentially use for free, the Kodak/Sun battle could have important implications for the software community as a whole. The message boards are teaming with infuriated technophiles who want to know if Kodak is coming after them next. (So far Kodak has filed suit only against Sun, not individual developers.)

Whether companies should even be able to patent software has been a bone of contention within the legal and technology industries for years. The software code itself is not actually patented--algorithms cannot be patented. Rather, it is a software program's method of operation that falls under patent law, according to Harvard Law professor Jonathan Zittrain.

"Copyright law prevents software from being ripped off wholesale," he says. "But the level of abstraction that is involved in patenting software just doesn't make sense. Software patents are just an employment program for lawyers."

It's a matter of public policy, says Jonathan Eunice, an analyst with the IT research firm Illuminata, based in Nashua, N.H. "The question is, Are software patents doing what they are supposed to do?" he says. "Patent law is supposed to encourage investment and invention, but cases like this aren't doing that."

The European Union is now wrestling with similar matters as it tries to formulate its own software patent policy.

But it's unlikely that U.S. software patents will disappear any time soon, says Stanford University law professor Mark Lemley, if only because software giants like IBM (nyse: IBM - news - people ) and Microsoft (nasdaq: MSFT - news - people ) are heavily invested in them.

"We have been patenting software for at least a decade, and there are hundreds of thousands of software patents," he says. "Congress would have to get involved if the issue were to be reconsidered. And the big technology companies have a lot of leverage with Congress."

No doubt the success with which Sun appeals the Kodak case will have a significant impact on how the U.S. government approaches the issue going forward.


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Funkyfun
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Registered: May 2004
Location: Toronto

Impressive Technology....For people who don't like Real player..Try using Real alternative

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malek
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Registered: Nov 2001
Location: Montréal

software patents are retarded...


what if Kodak wins and asks Sun to stop developping Java?

what are the thousands of developpers supposed to do? stop?

this is stupid.


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ShadoWolf
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Registered: Apr 2002
Location: State of Trance

quote:
Originally posted by jdjd
RealPlayer is THE WORST software ever made!


It's the second-worst software ever made.

Number one worst software ever: Adobe Acrobat 6.0


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