i have heard a lot of good things about the denon cd decks. they are probably the best value for money you will get on a cd deck at the moment. although it will be very handy to get used to the pioneer cueing system if you are serious about progressing into clubs.

the features of the denons look so sweet, i can see why you are in this dilema, i would be!

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Yeah decisions decisions decisions lol

I think the different cueing systems wont be too much of a hassle, ive never used pioneers before .. only my mates denon 1800F's, and its pretty easy so hopefully it wont be too much trouble learning both..

back to the choice ... atm im leaning towards the CDJ800 for the followin reasons:

-Scratch emulation is apparently the best goin around? (think i read it in another thread)
-2 hot starts instead of 1
-quick return to cue at the touch of the platter
-visual marker display
-auto beat loop

but the denons have a lot of nifty features but i dont know how much value they hold to me... key adjust seems nice though

-key adjust
-Pitch Range: 4%, 16%, 24%, 50% ... not just 10%/100% for the 800s
-active spinnning platter (but does that actually have much purpose since i haven't used vinyl before?)
-pitch bend buttons, as well as the jog wheel (Freak mentioned that this is handy in another thread i think)
-5000 cue memory points (stored internally) where CDJ800 only has 1 stored per disc? (thats the way i read it)
-0.02 increments in -/+4% mode .. but i dont really care for this as ill probably be using it in -/+10% a fair amount of the time i think
-software upgrades (in the future)


theres other stuff like samplers, 100% pitch resolution etc that i haven't bothered mentioning, since they both have it..

one thing im disappointed bout with the denons is the 'listen to the outro' bit .. they had it in the discontinued 2600F's, but this model dont seem to have em

Last edited by bent on Oct-20-2004 at 10:03

Here is the description of the DNS3000 from the denon dj web site

• Motor Driven Active Platter (Patent Pending)
• Real time Scratch (CD/MP3)
• 7" vinyl adaptor included to use your own 45's
• Next Track Reserve (pick your next song during playback)
• 1 Hot Start or Seamless Loop per track or disc (CD/MP3)
• 1 (15) Second sampler
• A/B Loop Trim (CD/MP3)
• 4-Platter Effects; Drag-S, Brake, Dump, Reverse (CD/MP3)
• Key adjust accurate up to ±99%
• Pitch range; ±4, 10, 16, 24, 50, 100%
• Plays CD-R/RW media • Supports ID3 Tags (Artist, Title, Album)
• Supports C.B.R & V.B.R. MP3 encoding
• MP3 File Search System by; Artist, Title, File or Folder (worlds first)
• 5000 Internal Custom Memory points
• Removable slot-in drive
• Digital Output w/no limitations (SPDIF)
• Fader Start & X-Effect compatible
• 20 seconds of shock proof memory (CD/MP3)
• Relay Playback • Designed with SHARC® DSP
• Compatible with FG5000 or BU9000 spare drives

Well, think of it this way:

Do you actually have the intention to go out and play in clubs and stuff?

Because if you do, you might be better of getting the Pioneers, since those are used in almost every club.

What I would do is try to find a store which sells both of the cd-players, and try them out both. In that way you will have an ideal comparison between the two.

If this is not possible, just make a list of features that both decks have and remove the features you don't need. In that way, you should come real close to finding the right deck.

Good luck!

the hot cues on the 800 (and the 1000) are fantastic, just listen to a zabiela set and imagine you are him, then decide which cd deck to buy

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lol yeah ... i keep thinking 'Do I wanna be like JZ?" ... but then i realise i can't afford the FX unit lol so it probs wouldnt sound half as sick!

for gods sake...see this thread. http://www.tranceaddict.com/forums/...threadid=185974

for gods sake search wasn't working all yesterday ...?

plus i went through the last 15-odd pages manually

for those who are interested .. i got

1 x denon s3000
1 x pioneer cdj100

both at about 30-40% off cause the place had a hell sale

bout to set 'em up now!

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Originally posted by bent for those who are interested .. i got 1 x denon s3000 1 x pioneer cdj100 both at about 30-40% off cause the place had a hell sale bout to set 'em up now!

holy crap, how come stores in canada seem to NEVER put any decent dj equipment on sale? the only things ive seen go on sale are mixers that are already worth under 250$

anyways congrats on your purchases.

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Originally posted by beats and beeps holy crap, how come stores in canada seem to NEVER put any decent dj equipment on sale? the only things ive seen go on sale are mixers that are already worth under 250$ anyways congrats on your purchases.

cheers

was speakin to the guy that works there he says they have an annual sale .. and it sounds like from wat he was saying that they have shit so cheap once a year cause the manufacturers give them reduce the prices temporarily, and they pass on the discount..

mid-october .. must remember for next year!

plus they had doorbuster sales for the first day of the sale week,

had 2 HDJ100's, $100 down from $300!!

and a pair of vestax PDX2000mk2's at half price..