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Below are some other converstations from the same books, that I already typed in Southern Ontario reginal forum, so if you already seen thread titled "WHY, WHY, WHY?" there - this is repetition, for others to comprehend.
[Author] ... TELL ME ABOUT THE TIME.
There is no time like the pre-sent! You've heard that before, I'm sure. But you didnt understand it. Now you do. There is no time but this time. There is no moment but this moment. "Now" is all that there is.
[AUTHOR] WHAT ABOUT "YESTERDAY" and "TOMORROW"?
Figments of your imagination. Constructions of your mind. Nonexistent in Ultimate Reality. Everything that ever happened, is happening, and ever will happen, is happening right now.
[AUHOR] I DONT UNDERSTAND.
And you cant. Not completely. But you can begin to. And a beginning grasp is all that is needed here. So, listen. "Time" is not a continuum. It is an element of relativity that exists vertically, not horizontally. Dont think of it as "left to right" thing - a so-called time line that runs from birth to death for each individual, and from some finite point to some finite point for the universe.
"Time" is an up-and-down thing! Think of it as a spindle, representing the Eternal Moment Of Now.
Now picture leafs of paper on the spindle, one atop the other. These are the elements of time. Each element separate and distinct, yet each existing simultaneously with the other. All the paper on the spindle at once! As much as there will ever be - as much as there ever was ...
There is only One Moment - this moment - the Eternal Moment Of Now.
It is right now that everything is happening - and I am glorified. There is no waiting for the glory of God. I made it this way because I just couldnt wait! I was so happy to Be Who I Am that I just couldn't wait to make that manifest in My reality. So, BOOM, here it is - right here, right now - ALL OF IT! There is no beginning to this, and there is no End. It - the all of Everything - just IS.
Within the Isness is where you experience - and your greatest secret - lies. You can move into consciousness within the Isness to any "time" or "Place" you choose.
[AUTHOR] YOU MEAN WE CAN TIME TRAVEL?
Indeed - and many of you have. ALL of you have, in fact - and you do it routinely, usually is what you call your dream state. Most of you are not aware of it. You cannot retain the awareness. But the energy sticks to you like glue, and sometimes there is enough residue that others - sensitive to this energy - can pick up things about your "past" or your "future". They feel or "read" this residue, and you call them seers or psychics. Sometimes there is enough residue that even you, in your limited consciouness, are aware that you've "been here before". Your whole being is suddenly jarred by the realization that you've "done this all before"!
[AUTHOR] DE JA VU!
Yes. Or that wonderful feeling when you meet someone that you've known them all your life - known them for all eternity! That's a spectacular feeling. Thats a marvelous feeling. And thats a true feeling. You have known that soul forever! Forever is a right now thing! So you have often looked up, or looked down, from your "piece of paper" on the spindle,, and seen all the other pieces! And you've seen yourself there - because a part of You is on every piece!
[AUTHOR] HOW IS THAT POSSIBLE?
I tell you this: You have always been, are now, and always will be. There has never been a time where you were not - nor will ever be such time.
[AUTHOR] BUT WAIT! WHAT ABOUT THE CONCEPT OF OLD SOULS? AREN'T SOME SOULS 'OLDER' THAN OTHERS?
Nothing is older than anything. I created it ALL AT ONCE, and All Of It exists right now. The experience of "older" and "younger" to which you refer has to do with the levels of awareness of a particular soul, or Aspect Of Being. You are all Aspects of Being, simply parts of What Is. Each part has the consciousness of the Whole embedded within it. Every element carries the imprint. "Awareness" is the experience of that consciousness being awakened. The individual aspect of the ALL becomes aware of itself. It becomes, quite literally, self conscious.
Then, gradually, it becomes conscious of all others, and then, of the fact that there are no others - that All is One. Then ultimately, of Me. Magnificent Me!
[AUTHOR] BOY, YOU REALLY LIKE YOU, DONT YOU?
Don't you?
[AUTHOR] YES, I THINK IT'S GREAT!
I agree. And I think you're great! Thats the only place where you and I disagree. You don't think you're great!
[AUTHOR] HOW CAN I SEE MYSELF AS GREAT WHEN I SEE ALL MY FOIBLES, ALL MY MISTAKES - ALL MY EVIL?
I tell you this: Tere is no evil!
[AUTHOR] I WISH THAT COULD BE TRUE.
You are perfect, just as you are.
[AUTHOR] I WISH THAT COULD BE TRUE, TOO.
It is true! A tree is no less perfect because it is a seedling. A tiny infant is no less perfect than a grown-up. It is perfection itself. Because it cannot do a thing, does not know a thing, it does not make it somehow less perfect. A child makes mistakes. She stands. She toddles. She stands again, a bit wobbly, haning on her mommy's leg. Does that make the child imperfect? I tell you it is just opposite! The child is perfection itself, wholly and completely adorable. So, too, are you.
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[AUTHOR] THIS INFORMATION ABOUT TIME ALL SEEMS ... WELL, INTERESTING, BUT RATHER ESOTERIC. DOES IT HAVE ANY APPLICATION TO REAL LIFE?
A true understanding of time allows you to live much more peacefully within your reality of relativity, where time is experienced as a movement, a flow, rather than a constant. It is you who are moving, not time. Time has no movement. There is only One Movement.At some level you deeply understand this. That is why, when something really magnificent or significant occurs in your life, you often say it is as if "time stands still". It does. And when you do also, you often experience one of those life-defining moments.
AUTHOR: I FIND THIS HARD TO BELIEVE. HOW CAN IT BE POSSIBLE?
Your science has already proven this mathematically. Formulas have been writte showing that if you get into a spaceship and fly far anough fast enough, you could swing back around toward the Earth and watch yourself taking off. This demonstrates that Time is not a movement but a field through which you move - in this case on Spaceship Earth.
You say it takes 365 days to make a year. Yet what is a day? Youve decided, quite arbitrarily, I might add - that a day is the time it takes your Spaceship to make one complete revolution on its axis. How do you know its made such a spin (you cant feel it moving!)? Youve chosen a reference point in the heavens - the Sun. You say it takes a full day for the portion of the Spaceship you are on to face the Sun, turn away from the Sun, then face the Sun again. You've divided this day into 24 hours - again quite arbitrarily. You could have just as easily have said "10" or "73"! Then you divided each hour into minutes. You said each hourly unit contained 60 smaller units, called minutes, and that each of those contained 60 tiny units, called seconds. One day you noticed that the Earth was not only spinning, it was also flying! You saw that it was moving through space arounf the Sun. You carefully calculated that it took 365 revolutions of the Earth for the Earth itself to revolve around the Sun. This number of Earth spins you called a year.
Things kind of got messy when you decided that you wanted to divide up a year into units smaller than a year, but larger than a day. You created a week and the month, and you managed to get the same number of months in every year, but not the same number of days in each month. You couldn'tfind a way to divide an odd number of days (365) by an even number of months (12), so you just decided that some months contained more days than others! You felt that you had to stay with twelve months as the years sub-divider because that was the number of Lunar Cycles you observed the moon moving through during the year. In order to reconcile these three spatial events - revolutions around the sun, spins of the Earth on its axis, and moon cycles - you simply adjusted the number of days in each month.
Even this device didnt solve all the problems because your earlier invention kept creating a "build-up" of time which you didnt know what to do with. So you also decided that every so often one year would have to have a whole day more! You called this Leap Year, and joked about it, but you actually live by such construction - and then you call My explanation of time "unbelieveable!
Youve just as arbitrarily created decades and centuries (based, interestingly, on 10s, not 12s) to further measure the passage of time - but all along what you've really been doing is merely devising a way to measure movements through space.
Thus we see that it is not time which passes, but objects which pass through, and move around in, a static field which you call space. Time is simply your way of counting movements!
Scientists deeply understand this connection and therefore speak in terms of the "Space-Time Continuum". Your Dr Einstein and other realized that time was a mental construction, a relational concept. Time was what it was relative to the space that existed between objects (if the universe was expanding - which it is - then it takes longer for the Earth to revolve around the sun t0day than it did a billion years ago. There's more space to cover.)
Thus, it took more minutes, hours, days, weeks, months, years, decades, and centuries for all these cyclical events to occur recently than it did in 1492? (When is a day not day? When is a year not a year?)
Your new, highly sophisticated timing instruments now record this time discreptancy, and every year clocks around the world is adjusted to accomodate the universe that WONT SIT STILL! This is called the Greenwich Mean Time ... and it is really "mean" because it makes a liar out of the universe!
Einstein theorized that if it wasnt time which was moving, but he who was moving through space at a given rate, all he had to do was change then amount of space between the objects - or change the rate of speed with which he moved through space from one object to another - to "alter" time.
It was his General Theory of Relativity which expanded your modern day understanding of the co-relation between time and space.But now you may begin to understand why, if you make a long journey through space and return, you may have aged only ten years - which your friends on Earth will have aged 30! The farther you go, the more you will warp the Space-Time Continuum, and the less your chances when you land of finding alive on Earth anyone who was there when you left! However, if scientists on Earth in some "future" time developed a way to propel themselves faster, they could "cheat" the universe and stay in sync with "real time" on Earth, returing to find that the same time had passed on Earth as had passed on the Spaceship.
Obviously, if more propulsion was available, one could return to Earth before one took off! That is to say, that time on Earth would pass more slowly than time on the spaceship. You could come back in ten of your years and the Earth would have aged only four! Incrrease the speed, and ten years in space might mean ten minutes on Earth. Now, come across a fold in the fabric of space (Einstein and other believed they exist - and they were correct!) and you are suddenly propelled across space in one infiniteismal moment. Could such a time-space phenomenon literally fling you back into time?
It should not be quite as difficult to now see that time does not exist exist as a construction of your mentality. Everything's that ever happened - and is ever going to happen - is happening right now. Thw ability to observe it merely depends on your point of view - your "place in space". If you were in my place, you could see it All - right now! Comprehend?
[AUTHOR] WOW! I AM BEGINNING TO - ON A THEORETICAL LEVEL - YES! Right now psysical objects are limited in terms of their speed - but nonphysical objects - my thoughts, my soul could theoretically move though the ether at incredible speeds.
Exactly! And that is what happens often in dreams and other out-of-body and psychic experiences.
AUTHOR: BUT ... IF EVERYTHING HAS ALREADY HAPPENED, THEN IT FOLLOWS THAT I AM POWERLESTO CHANGE MY FUTURE. IS THIS PREDESTINATION?
No! That is not true. In fact, this "set-up" should serve you, not dissolve you! You are always at a place of free will and total choice. Being able to see into the future (to get others to do it for you) should enhance your ability to live the life you want, not limit it. If you "see" a future event or experience you do not like, dont choose it! Choose again! Select another! Change or alter your behavious so as to avoid the undesired outcome.
AUTHOR: BUT HOW CAN I AVOID THAT WHICH HAS ALREADY HAPPENED?
It has not happened to you - yet! You are at a place in the Space-Time Continuum where you are not consciously aware of the occurance. You do not know it has happened. You have not remembered your future! This forgetfullness is the secret of all time. It is what makes possible for you to play the great game of life [explains in other books].
What you know is not so. Since you do not remember your future, it has not happened to you yet! A thing happens only when it is experienced. A thing is experienced only when it is known. Now lets say you've been blessed with a brief glimpse, os split-second knowing of your future. What happened is that your Spirit - the nonphysical part of you - has simply sped to another place on the Space-Time Continuum and brought back soome residual energy - some images or impressions - of that moment or event.These you can feel- or sometimes another who has developed a metaphysical gift can feel or see those images and energies that are swirling about you. If you dont like what you sense about your future, step away from that!I nthat instant you change your experience - and everyone of You breathes a sign of relief!
AUTHOR: WAIT A MINUTE! WHOAAAAA ---?
You must know - you are now ready to be told - that you exist at every level of the Space-Time Continuum simultaneously. That is, your soul always was, always is, and always will be - world without end - amen.
AUTHOR: I "EXIST" IN MORE PLACES THAN ONE?
Of course! You exist everywhere - and at all times!
AUTHOR: THERE IS A "ME" in the future and a ME in the past?
Well, future and past do not exist, as we've just taken plains to understand - but, using those words as you have been using them, yes.
AUTHOR: THERE IS MORE THAN ONE OF ME?
There is only one of you, but you are much larger than you think!
AUTHOR: SO WHEN THE "ME" THAT EXISTS "NOW" CHANGES SOMETHING HE DOESN'T LIKE ABOUT HIS FUTURE, THE "ME" THAT EXISTS IN THE FUTURE NO LONGER HAS THAT AS PART OF HIS EXPERIENCE?
Essentially yes. The whole mosaic changes. But he never loses the experience he's given himself. He's just relieved and happy that you dont have to go through that.
AUTHOR: BUT THE "ME" IN THE "PAST" HAS YET THE EXPERIENCE THIS, SO HE WALKS RIGHT INTO IT? CAN I HELP HIM?
Sure. First, by changing what the "you" in front of you experienced, the you behind you may never have to experience it! It is by this device that your soul evolves. In the same way, the future you got help from his own future itself, thus helping you avoid what he did not. DId you follow that?
AUTHOR: YES, AND ITS INTRIGUING. BUT NOW I HAVE ANOTHER QUESTION. WHAT ABOUT PAST LIVES? IF I HAVE ALWAYS BEEN ME - IN THE PAST AND IN THE FUTURE - HOW COULD I HAVE BEEN SOMEONE ELSE, ANOTHER PERSON IN A PAST LIFE?
You are a Divine Being, capable of more than one experience at the same time - and able to divide your Self into as many different selves as you choose. You can live the same life over and over again, in different ways - as I've just explained. And you can also live different lives at differen times on the Continuum. Thus, all the while you're being you, here, now - you can also be, and have been - other "selves" in other times and places.
AUTHOR: GOOD GRIEF! THIS GETS COMPLICATEDER AND COMPLICATEDER!
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Most of this infromation I am copying directly from a book called Conversations With God, by Neale Donald Walsch.
MY BEST FRIEND INTRODUCED ME TO THESE AMAZING BOOKS, SO HE WILL ALSO BE ABLE TO FILL YOU TAS IN ON MORE OF THIS SUBJECT, AS SOON AS HE HAS TIME FOR IT.
What do you TAs think of these "Conversations with God" books so far, between the Author and God ...?
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