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josh4
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Iran: "Death to America."

Iran approves uranium enrichment
http://edition.cnn.com/2004/WORLD/e...lear/index.html

TEHRAN, Iran (CNN) -- Iran's parliament Sunday unanimously passed a resolution allowing the government to continue its uranium enrichment activities, despite recent efforts by European negotiators to curb the program.

After the vote was passed, several lawmakers stood up and shouted: "Death to America."

Iran has previously stated its nuclear program is intended for peaceful civilian uses. The Iranians have said they have every right to resume enriching uranium.

Enriched uranium can be a fuel for both nuclear energy and atomic weapons.

European negotiators have recently engaged in talks with Iranian representatives in an attempt to ease fears in the United States and Europe that Iran is seeking to develop nuclear weapons.

Iran recently rejected proposals from European negotiators to indefinitely suspend its program in exchange for incentives.

During the talks in Vienna -- the headquarters of the United Nations' nuclear watchdog International Atomic Energy Agency (IAEA) -- negotiators for Britain, Germany and France offered to supply nuclear fuel for Iran's planned power plants, and to enhance trade and political relations.

The proposals were a last ditch effort before the next meeting of the Board of Governors of the IAEA scheduled for November 25.

Iran's Islamic Republic News Agency (IRNA) reported the Iranian delegates told the Europeans that "restricting Iran's access to nuclear technology marks a red line for the country and it would not be acceptable at all."

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Spacey Orange
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What's good for the US, Israel, France, China, North Korea, and Russia isn't good for Iran? I say eliminate all.


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PHALPAX
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This is extremely simplistic but do what Israel did to Iraq, bomb the facilities. That seemed to work...or slow down the process anyway.

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Spacey Orange
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Iran will have them, its time the world gets used to that state of affairs.

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Its very likely that the US iraq war actually is causing the iranian program to speed up as a viable defense against a possible theat from israel or the US.


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quote:
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This is extremely simplistic but do what Israel did to Iraq, bomb the facilities. That seemed to work...or slow down the process anyway.


The point is that they will get it,and I dont see why they cant have it really,if they wanna get rid of Irans Nuclear bombs they should destroy all of them including Isreal and U.S. .


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Q5echo
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The point is that they will get it,and I dont see why they cant have it really,if they wanna get rid of Irans Nuclear bombs they should destroy all of them including Isreal and U.S. .


then you have no respect for the weapon.

Iran with nuclear weapons is like giving a 5yr old a loaded shotgun. nothing good will come of it. they don't need it.

BTW Iran has learned from Iraq's mistakes regarding pre-emptive Israeli strikes. Israel took out one nuclear site in the middle of the desert realtively close them. Iran has 12 active/underconstruction nuclear sites scattered throughout the country with many hardened and underground research facilities location in question.

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St_Andrew
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then you have no respect for the weapon.

Iran with nuclear weapons is like giving a 5yr old a loaded shotgun. nothing good will come of it. they don't need it.


well, obviously iran has the same right to defend themself as the US have. I agree that it feels safer that the US has WMD than iran, but i still think it is quite narrow minded to say that US could have, but no other countries.

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There is a big difference in a peaceful country having nuclear weapons and a rogue nation having them. A rogue nation will use them for blackmail, will use them as a deterrent to do anything they wish, as a way of seeking more power than they deserve, and as a way to spread the technology to terrorists.


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There is a big difference in a peaceful country having nuclear weapons and a rogue nation having them. A rogue nation will use them for blackmail, will use them as a deterrent to do anything they wish, as a way of seeking more power than they deserve, and as a way to spread the technology to terrorists.


how many wars have the US been in lately? how many wars has iran been in lately?

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How many of these wars have we used nuclear technology? How many of these wars have we made threats of nuclear war? How many of these wars have we proliferated nuclear technology? How many of these wars have we use nuclear technology for blackmail or defense purposes?

Don't forget the rest of the countries who have nuclear weapons, the United States isn't the only one. I figured someone would bring the US up however.


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Q5echo
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Originally posted by St_Andrew
how many wars have the US been in lately? how many wars has iran been in lately?

apples and oranges, man.

you, as a western European, should be able to appreciate strategic nuclear deterence. especially when the parties involved have shown the level of responsibility they've had for the last half century.

how many wars have we used nuclear weapons in when we had them? that was our first one wasn't it?

now Iran has nukes. (waiting for their first war with them) nuh-uh! not gonna do it! it's frikken Iran, dude!

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quote:
Originally posted by BadBadNeil
How many of these wars have we used nuclear technology? How many of these wars have we made threats of nuclear war? How many of these wars have we proliferated nuclear technology? How many of these wars have we use nuclear technology for blackmail or defense purposes?

Don't forget the rest of the countries who have nuclear weapons, the United States isn't the only one. I figured someone would bring the US up however.


well, i dont think Iran has threatened anyone more than the US or Israel has with their nuclear weapons (or any other country with nuclear weapons either really?)...

its just a way for them to make it harder for US or Israel to invade them, and i fully understand them... although i agree that it feels unsafe that they do have them and I think the UN should do everything to make them not have them... actually that is for every country with nuclear weapons, the world would be a safer place without any

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