I know what you mean, and a lot of people here don't listen to the 'PLUR' style here - not sure why, but anyways. Have you checked out their cd "faith in 2000"? this cd is what got me into trance, and a lot of the songs on their have great build ups and epic moments - try Watergate - Heart of Asia, DJ Taucher - Velvet, Mike Koglin - The Silence. Mars' new song 'Stay on Path' is good too. I am sure there are many other songs i cant remember right now. ummm...try some of the mp3.com artists, trance[]control or ppk. PPk's - Resurection is great. peace.

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alright htanks i'll try them out. also i can never find any mars and mystre cds? should i try that hvq or whatever. h something.. site?

yeah they are on an independent label, Frequency-8. Its San Francisco based, and I have never seen any of their stuff on the internet. I found mine at a small college cd store that specializes in electronic music. They can most likely order it for you. Where you from? That will depend big time. Just keep dling anything that sounds cool, and you will find tons of stuff. peace.
http://www.frequency-8.com is the record label website, but last time i checked they were still rebuilding it.

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yeah i'm kinda living in suburbs of san francisco, so many ppl know them around here. thanks man

well you are in a MUCH better situation than i was, just keep looking and you should be fine. peace.

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Yo...Mars&Mystre is the shit, they just came out with a new cd for 2001 called THE MYSTERIES WITHIN...its on napster tight cd...peace.

biznology, that site hasnt been updated since i started getting into the scene about 2 years ago, i think they just gave up on the site all together :-(

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hmm can't find it on napster..grrr..well thanks dj one..damn that site...so not updated like every other sites ive made.

DVD: If you live in the suburbs of San Francisco it should be easy to find Mars and Mystre CD's, hell just go to their shop F-8, it's on Haight. I've seen it sold at Rasputin's as well.

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Wasn't Captain Tinrib the main producer of save the rave???

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yep...but i can't find anything from him....i heard Peaceful warrior by mars, it has the effect i like in save the rave also..u know the one that sounds like a siren or something like that