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PVD fanatic
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Registered: Nov 2002
Location: Washington, DC and Philly
using eq's to mix ...

so i've gotten lots of comments about using my eq's more... esp. my highs and mids... when do u mix these in ?? do you pull the current tracks highs and mids, as your fading in the the oncoming track? is there a certain time or speed you do this at?? any info would be appreciated.. .any at all, thanks....


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sebjr
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Registered: Jan 2003
Location: Wellington, New Zealand

I just use EQ's to make the mix smoother. Bass/kick drum is probably most important. Banging in a new track wtih full bass usually sounds like its coming into quick and sounds like ass. Another one is the treble....if an incoming track has very high treble, and the playing track has fairly high treble - then you mix them both in at full volume it sounds overly treble (heh). SO I will kill the treble on the incoming a little to soften the blow.

It's different to each track sometimes you don't even need to touch them IMO!

Hope that helps

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sym
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Registered: Apr 2002
Location: NYC

A general rule I follow is to keep the eq's at about 50-75% on the incoming track, and bring the incoming volume to about 70-80% slowly.

Than start turning up the low end eq on the incoming track and i turn down the outgoing a little bit, than I raise the volume on the incoming track to 100% and eq the other's similiarly, than use the outgoing volume to fade it out.

Of course it's different from track to track, but that's just a general way of doing things.

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Desty Nova
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Registered: Nov 2004
Location: Ketheres
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If you're using a three band E.Q (highs, mids , bass) I find that when mixing trance it's usually best to start on the mids (kill the high and lows) to give it that kick match or upity open closed hi-hat. Keep time untill the breakdown Then slam in the bassline right when the hook synth fades out on top of a drum fill keeping it very fast tribal and banging. Sometimes you'll need cut out the bass of the outgoing track to do this( these are usually my favorite mixes) I prefer to save the rides (highs) for When it gets quiet, although sometimes it's easier to keep time with just the hihats then slam the bass, especially with Jungle /DNB. Becareful not to leave something turned all the way when you're done I always do that
ALWAYS beatmatch it first then rhythm match. The E.Q can only do so much against the galloping.

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D-res
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Registered: May 2004
Location: Milwaukee, WI
Re: using eq's to mix ...

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so i've gotten lots of comments about using my eq's more... esp. my highs and mids... when do u mix these in ?? do you pull the current tracks highs and mids, as your fading in the the oncoming track? is there a certain time or speed you do this at?? any info would be appreciated.. .any at all, thanks....


what i do is cut out the highs and lows completely from the track im mixing into and then when its been playing for 32 beats or when it has a small build up i bring in one or both... if done right it can sound fulfilling and overall really nice.

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sleepydragon
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Registered: Oct 2003
Location: doncaster, england

does anyone actually use the mids to mix? ive found that u dont really need to use them and only use the bass and treble


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Max Thomson
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Registered: May 2004
Location: Berkeley, California

I used to only touch the bass but I use the high and mid much more nowadays. It always depends on the track, but generally I find that removing some of the mid can make switching meatier kicks a bit smoother. I usually remove the highs of an incoming track by as much as 50%, then switch it out midmix. Be creative and don't be afraid to mess around!


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onceler
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Registered: Feb 2003
Location: CTA #6

If you want to see a professional in action, goto an AvB show and watch how he mixes. If I remember correctly, he has all the eq's down... or at least the bass 100% down and slams the fader to about 70% then gradually does everything else.

Granted, this prob. changes mix to mix as there is no correct answer on this question. It is all feeling and how you want to approach the mix you are about to do.

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KiNeTiC ENeRgY
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Registered: Oct 2003
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If you want to see a professional in action, goto an AvB show and watch how he mixes. If I remember correctly, he has all the eq's down... or at least the bass 100% down and slams the fader to about 70% then gradually does everything else.

Granted, this prob. changes mix to mix as there is no correct answer on this question. It is all feeling and how you want to approach the mix you are about to do.


I wouldn't say armin is a great mixer, as most of his sets are quite chopppy and rough with little EQ'ing.

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nrjizer
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Registered: Jan 2001
Location: Bumfuck, GA

Depends on the kind of track and kind of mix I'm trying to pull off.

Housier tunes with a lot of rhythm and bass, I bring the lows in last. More tribal/hi hat type tunes, I do the Highs lastb (but it all depends on the mix).


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tu_face
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Registered: Oct 2000
Location: Sheffield, UK

a lot of the time i bring a track in with all the eqs down, i find you can get a better fading sound from this bringing in each band slowly. but this is definitely a question without a straight answer, as you should be doing mixes differently with different tracks/combination of tracks as each is structured differently. if you do one kind of mix with one track, it doesn't mean it will sound any good using a different track.

one kind of mix some people overlook is with the bass all the way up on the incoming track with mids and highs 50%, and slamming the fader up whilst at the same time dropping the bass on the original track. then you can fade the mids and highs in after that.

there are a number of different combinations and ways to do things, the best way is to just try things for yourself and find out what works


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djtrinity
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Registered: May 2002
Location: NYC

also keep in mind that u don't have to mix with EQ's...In almost 7 years of spinning i never really use EQ's. If your mixing proper tracks together u will never need them.

My latest mixers are Bozak & a UREI and neither have EQ's on them....and i have made some of my smoothest mixes to date on them.


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