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screw the DJing... buy yourself a virus and some sequencer(cubase, sonar, logic)... you will regret not taking this information from me in a few years. i guarentee it

I am selling a mint condition allen and heath xone 62 for $800.00 with monster cables. It also has the 19" rack mount kit. Also selling 1 technics 1200mk5, a few hours use, and a road ready coffin setup with stand

Two Technics MK2 1200 TT's (used)
And a Vestax PCV 275

Then records...

ok this is a really good deal, isn't it?

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dl...5734671957&rd=1

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Originally posted by djRocket ok this is a really good deal, isn't it? http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dl...5734671957&rd=1

Its not bad, I know DannyO got 1 of his tables for 375Cdn... but that was an MK2, but it did have a Ortofon needle...

But yea. not a bad deal.. if it stays at that price.

m5g's are a lot better than mk2's though aren't they?

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Originally posted by djRocket m5g's are a lot better than mk2's though aren't they?

Not exactly... just a different model number and few small differences... Like the Blue LED's 16% pitch... no 0 notch, slightly improved tonearm (?? someone correct me if I'm wrong)..

Not enough to warrent the extra cost on them,.

And with regards to my post about that ebay.. I didn't realize it was for TWO M5G's... so yes.. that is a fucking wicked deal...

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Originally posted by J:\Digital Its not bad, I know DannyO got 1 of his tables for 375Cdn... but that was an MK2, but it did have a Ortofon needle... But yea. not a bad deal.. if it stays at that price.

Actually that one was 325Cdn with an Ortofon Concorde Scratch, with 2 extra styli, and it was all in mint condition.

But like J:\ said, get yourself some used Techs and good needles, then either the PCV-275, or with the spare money you could go higher, or spend the extra on records or an effects pad, but thats gettin abit crazy for starting out.

The differences between all the Technics are in another thread, but heres the quote by DJ Chex:

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Sl-1200/1210MK2 +/-8% pitch Center dip at 0% to engage quartz lock 1.5KG/cm torque removable dust cover w/ hinge Comes w/ rubber mat instead of slipmat 3g antiskate (you probably wont use this feature) incodescent bulb stylus lamp sl-1200/1210m3d +/-8% pitch no 0% dip like mk2 but reset button located left of pitch fader, (makes it easier to mix when pitch fader is near 0% 1.5KG/cm torque Hingless dust cover cartridge holder built in 3g antiskate Comes w/ rubber mat and a dj slipmat incodescent bulb stylus lamp sl-1200mk5 +/-8% pitch no 0% dip like mk2 but reset button located left of pitch fader, (makes it easier to mix when pitch fader is near 0% 1.5KG/cm torque Hingless dust cover cartridge holder built in Now w/ 6gram antiskate (does this really matter?) Comes w/ rubber mat and a dj slipmat LED stylus lamp (yelds longer life) brake adj pot was moved a little to the right so you can adjust brake without the need to remove the platter sl-1200MK5G same as mk5 except a 16% pitch range switch, blue LED stylus lamp, metallic black finish, blue lighted pitch number markers, the tonearm now has horizontal weight knob to help prevent skipping (i had this setting for scratching on my whitelabel, and i just found out it killed the stylus shit!!!!!!!!!!!!! but on the plus side, it did prevent records from skipping while scratching but killed a $50 stylus!!!!! damn!!! fuck!!!!!)

But honestly, it doesn't matter what model you get, just get the ones that are the best price.

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screw the DJing... buy yourself a virus and some sequencer(cubase, sonar, logic)... you will regret not taking this information from me in a few years. i guarentee it

ive been producing for over a year now with a musical background going back 8 or so years. just got an access virus b today. its a very complex instrument. mind bogglingly so. even though i understand the basics of subtractive synthesis i admit, this synth and its feature set go way beyond what i expected of this instrument. it has me stumped half the time. the mod matrix alone is gigantic not to mention the fact that if you havent had any experience with working with oscillators, filters and envelopes you'll be in for a shock with the virus. virus b has various levels of saturation stages between filters. unlike most VSTi's you have to think about routing filters in series or parallel. the frequency modulation (fm synthesis) aspect of the synth is confusing if you dont know anything about fm synthesis. the fact that alot of the features of the virus are hidden away in little menus on that tiny lcd display makes things even harder, especially when most of those features are so abstract. not to mention the fact you need to learn about MIDI and the fact you will need a midi interface soundcard, which depending on how many studio peripherals you plan on hooking up to your pc can get very expensive. it all adds up to a very powerful but very unfriendly synth. i maintain the best place to start production is with an easy to use host like floops and a VSTi like vanguard. vanguard has the basics. oscillators (+ sub oscillator for each one). a filter. an envelope. some easy to use FX. no bullshit in between. no mod matrix hidden away in pop up menus. no programmable arp. no saturation levels or frequency modulation on the oscillators. what you see on the control surface of vanguard is all you need to build an instrument. its a fuck sight easier to program than a virus. and it sounds fab too. getting a copy of cubase and a virus having had no former experience with music production would be like one of the biggest mindfucks you could ever do to yourself.