I've got one ordered - it'll go quite nicely with my Livestrong band.

It's a very good cause - get one today and keep that awareness level rising.

Unfortunately im siding with some of the views raised on the nu-g board .. in that these bands are no more then fashion accessories .. wearing an anti-bullying band might seem like a good idea to show your support against it .. but it wont stop bullying will it?

Unless you suddenly believe that if the nation starts wearing them then parents/governors/pupils/etc will suddenly speak out and try to do soemthing about it instead of sitting around and shaking their heads? I somehow doubt so ..

Dont like to quote people much but i think this sums it up ..

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Originally posted by Rijs I've got one ordered - it'll go quite nicely with my Livestrong band.

Cru54d3r makes a good point. Showing that you are anti-bullying by wearing a wristband will achieve very little. A bully isn't going to stop bullying because someone somewhere is wearing a fashion item which says what 90% of the population already know and agree with. It would be much better to give your money to anti-bullying charities who will spend the money on action.

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while I understand what you've said Adam, I know there are some who see it as more than just a fashion accessory and who will wear it for a long time even when the cause gets forgotten for some other hyped thing for the celebs & wannabes to jump on, and to me it's something important

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Originally posted by Cru54d3r Unless you suddenly believe that if the nation starts wearing them then parents/governors/pupils/etc will suddenly speak out and try to do soemthing about it instead of sitting around and shaking their heads? I somehow doubt so ..

Agreed – though at least someone is trying to do something!

Personally, I think there is only one way to beat bullying. It might be crude and may also seem to go against my liberal political views, but I say fight back. I was bullied as a kid. Then I started playing rugby, learned how to look after myself and never had any trouble after that. They should send kids who are getting bullied to karate lessons.

Cru54d3r, you seemed to have missed the point on this one.

I said that it will go quite nicely alongside my Livestrong band, but not in the terms of it being a fashion accessory, but in the terms that I support these charities. I wear my Livestrong wristband because I support the cause. Since I was young, people within my family have been dying because of cancer, so I'm pretty sure that I'm in line for it sometime within my lifetime. I've paid my money to the charity and I wear my band with pride, hoping to increase awareness.

The same can be said about the anti-bullying wristband. Surely if people wear them it's raising awareness, which is the main aim of the project. So yes, people will stand up and people will take note. It's not going to stop bullying, but it's going to help. When bullies see their 'idols' with an anti-bullying wristband, perhaps it'll convince them that bullying isn't acceptable and it certainly isn't funny.

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Originally posted by Rijs Cru54d3r, you seemed to have missed the point on this one. I said that it will go quite nicely alongside my Livestrong band, but not in the terms of it being a fashion accessory, but in the terms that I support these charities. I wear my Livestrong wristband because I support the cause. Since I was young, people within my family have been dying because of cancer, so I'm pretty sure that I'm in line for it sometime within my lifetime. I've paid my money to the charity and I wear my band with pride, hoping to increase awareness. The same can be said about the anti-bullying wristband. Surely if people wear them it's raising awareness, which is the main aim of the project. So yes, people will stand up and people will take note. It's not going to stop bullying, but it's going to help. When bullies see their 'idols' with an anti-bullying wristband, perhaps it'll convince them that bullying isn't acceptable and it certainly isn't funny.

Im inclined to side with you in regards to the livestrong bands but im sticking to my thoughts about the anti-bullying bands ..

Lets look at the latter .. who is actually going to wear these bands? School kids as a fashion accessory .. perhaps some that are being bullied .. but that wont stop the bullying. Perhaps some adults .. those who might have been bullied as a child .. but what purpose will this serve? I cant help but see this as an accessory .. i mean it doesnt take much to wear it .. on the other hand it does to try and do something about it like write a letter to the school governors or see the headmaster ..

I cant personally see the average mum and dad wearing one of these either and i guess they would be the next in line to suffer from a child being victimised with bullying at school .. infact id go so far to say i reckon the average parents would be clueless as to what these bands are .. and wouldnt be in the slightest bit motivated anymore then usual to suddenly do something about bullying just because their child (or anyone for that matter) has chosen to wear one ..

Back once again to the fact that it is seen as some as a fashion accessory also clouds (imo) the intended awareness factor of these items .. much like a poppy can be stuck on your top and a donation of £1 can be given .. and it all seems very well that your supporting a charity when infact its nothing more then some show .. because others are doing so too ..

Im interested to hear how you think a few thousand people wearing some bands (that will soon fade away) is going to change things for the fat ginger kid with glasses that gets bullied at school ..

How can you side with me regarding the Livestrong bands, and not the anti-bullying bands? They're both using the exact same concept to raise awareness. Livestrong bands will not stop people from getting cancer, the same as the anti-bullying bands will not stop people from being bullied, but it's the fact that, by wearing them, people are raising awareness.

The purpose of these bands, you ask? To educate and to push forward to issue. It doesn't take much to place it on your wrist in a morning, but perhaps that's where the genius actually is. Instead of having people sit down and write longwinded letters regarding bullying, people wear the wristbands, making the same point to politicians and to schools.

You seem to claim that the bands will have little effect, but, surely it's doing something. I didn't see everyone complaining about how they were bullied at school as openly as I have during the past few weeks. A prime example, right there, of what this campaign is all about.

If it's a fashion accessory, then perhaps it pushes the point even further, because there are so many people wearing them?

Like I've said, the few thousand bands will raise awareness; look at the media coverage of the bands already. People will stand up and take note of these - for either their intended purpose, or as being a fashion accessory, but even if the latter, there's still the campaign relating to bullying behind them.

Again, they're not going to end bullying once and for all, there are people who feel that to make themselves feel better, they have to put others down, and that's always going to be the case.

But, like I said, and I'll say it once again because I feel it's a good point, Livestrong bands will not stop cancer, nor will anti-bullying stop children being tormented unwarranted, but, at least it's doing something to raise the profile.

doesnt the donation from purchasing a band go towards anti-bulling charity's? if so, thats going to directly help stamping out bulling, even if wearing the actual band doesnt.

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Originally posted by Rijs How can you side with me regarding the Livestrong bands, and not the anti-bullying bands? They're both using the exact same concept to raise awareness. Livestrong bands will not stop people from getting cancer, the same as the anti-bullying bands will not stop people from being bullied, but it's the fact that, by wearing them, people are raising awareness. The purpose of these bands, you ask? To educate and to push forward to issue. It doesn't take much to place it on your wrist in a morning, but perhaps that's where the genius actually is. Instead of having people sit down and write longwinded letters regarding bullying, people wear the wristbands, making the same point to politicians and to schools. You seem to claim that the bands will have little effect, but, surely it's doing something. I didn't see everyone complaining about how they were bullied at school as openly as I have during the past few weeks. A prime example, right there, of what this campaign is all about. If it's a fashion accessory, then perhaps it pushes the point even further, because there are so many people wearing them? Like I've said, the few thousand bands will raise awareness; look at the media coverage of the bands already. People will stand up and take note of these - for either their intended purpose, or as being a fashion accessory, but even if the latter, there's still the campaign relating to bullying behind them. Again, they're not going to end bullying once and for all, there are people who feel that to make themselves feel better, they have to put others down, and that's always going to be the case. But, like I said, and I'll say it once again because I feel it's a good point, Livestrong bands will not stop cancer, nor will anti-bullying stop children being tormented unwarranted, but, at least it's doing something to raise the profile.

dont you pay for the cancer ones? thus donating money towards research.

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Originally posted by Coup doesnt the donation from purchasing a band go towards anti-bulling charity's? if so, thats going to directly help stamping out bulling, even if wearing the actual band doesnt.

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