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eyeball_2003
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Registered: Aug 2003
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Using gain to beatmatch

hi all
recently when mixing i had the idea of turning up the volume (via gain) of the track im cueing. the aim of this being so that when the beats are going dum-dum-dum-dum and galloping i will be able to tell which is which because one is a lot louder than the other, is this a good idea or am i wasting my time practising using this method?
thanks

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scAza
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Registered: Oct 2004
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or u cud just gently start slowin one track down, if the gap between the beats gets smaller, u know that one was goin faster. If the gap gets bigger, u know it was goin slower!

thats the way u will have to do it if u eventually get playin in clubs anyway, the crowd wont put up with u makin the master sound they're hearing, sound shit!


best just start this way in the first place i reckon m8

PS: r u eyeball from scousemp3s.co.uk ?


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Old Post Dec-10-2004 14:40  England
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eyeball_2003
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1stly im not the eyeball you know lol, i noticed theres quite a few ppl wiv my name, and i thought i was being original
thanks for your reply that does sound a much much better way, bu t i have one question.. how will increasing the volume of the cued track affect the one playing live? i think u misunderstand a little, but fuck it anyway your way sounds much better
cheers

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T-Soma
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Never heard of doing it that way. The crowd wont hear though because you are doing the gain thing in your headphones with both channels going into the headphones. am i correct?


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eyeball_2003
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quote:
Originally posted by DJ 00 Tommy
Never heard of doing it that way. The crowd wont hear though because you are doing the gain thing in your headphones with both channels going into the headphones. am i correct?

yeah thats what i mean
i just thought of it one day cos i was getting pissed off with tryna beatmatch, somedays i can go for hours other days.... you just dont wanna know lol

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DannyO
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quote:
Originally posted by eyeball_2003
1stly im not the eyeball you know lol, i noticed theres quite a few ppl wiv my name, and i thought i was being original
thanks for your reply that does sound a much much better way, bu t i have one question.. how will increasing the volume of the cued track affect the one playing live? i think u misunderstand a little, but fuck it anyway your way sounds much better
cheers


Turn up the gain all you wait if it helps, just not when the track is playing loud, it sounded like you meant live (reason for scaZas post), but if your turning it up for headphones thats fine, just be sure they are the same level when you bring the cued track in.

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tu_face
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try using split cue for a moment, just to differentiate between the tracks. thats why i use it all the time..

you shouldn't really piss about with the gain, just get it matched to the master track and leave it as it is otherwise some mixes can sound a bit ooerr


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eyeball_2003
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cheers danny0, i do find it helps slightly, but then im only just experimenting with this method. its just i find it difficult to tell whether deck A's beat is fastest or deck B's especially when i have them nearly beatmatched and they are ever so slightly out

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eyeball_2003
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Registered: Aug 2003
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quote:
Originally posted by tu_face
try using split cue for a moment, just to differentiate between the tracks. thats why i use it all the time..

you shouldn't really piss about with the gain, just get it matched to the master track and leave it as it is otherwise some mixes can sound a bit ooerr


split cue? is that the slider that lets me either hear deck a or b in my phones?
and if so can u elaborate slightly as to how that helps you beatmatch
thanks a lot

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eyeball_2003
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sorry ignore this.. double posted

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Liam
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split cue puts the cued signal in one cup, and the master out in the other.


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eyeball_2003
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quote:
Originally posted by Liam
split cue puts the cued signal in one cup, and the master out in the other.

i dont have that on my mixer god damn!...time to start saving for a better one

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