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TranceSpeeder
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how the hell!

do i mix rap? im getting pretty good with dancemusic, but with hiphop. i dont get it! you cant really beatmatch i mean the pitch of the song is so different! any basic pointers?

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nrjizer
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Fader slap!


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TranceSpeeder
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Acton
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personally, its basicaly waking the fader across as previously mentioned, you dont really have to mix with rap and hip hop, you can get away with 'stopin and startin' it at the right place


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T-Soma
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You can kind of mix the last few beats together and rap/hip-hop djing is where alot of scratching can come in very handy.


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Tranceporter99
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Re: how the hell!

quote:
Originally posted by TranceSpeeder
do i mix rap? im getting pretty good with dancemusic, but with hiphop. i dont get it! you cant really beatmatch i mean the pitch of the song is so different! any basic pointers?


normally the songs are to short to get any kind of a mix going.


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Exodus17
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quote:
Originally posted by nrjizer
Fader slap!


pretty much it

if you ever take a look at most hiphop dj's setups they usually dont have more than a 3ch mixer if that

if you listen to hiphop mixes you might notice that theres usually not much of a mix as we know it where it lasts multiple bars, usually (what ive heard anyways) the change in track is very quick

if you're trying to mix it like a trance track (with EQing, and upfaders) try just crossing over, maybe even taking the next track and doing a simple scratch and introducing it


if you wanna hear some good scratchwork check out The Xecutioners... they did alot more oldschool hiphop back when it was centered more around the Dj rather than the money, cars and booty

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onceler
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Registered: Feb 2003
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Like everybody above said.. the mix is really short. One of my buddies that spins hip hop prob. mixes maybe 32 bars at most and never really gets as precise as we do w/ the beatmixing as it is really quick.

The other way you could do it is w/ instramentals, it would give you a bit longer of the mix, but you would need to know your music more and what goes w/ what.

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Vlad
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If youre gonna mix rap... 2 things... transitions need to be short, as others have said, and have you tried to mix it with a breaks track? You might be able to mix breaks well with it.

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Gunyouken
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"everybody say Hoooohoooo, everybody say haaaaahaaa" I see they like to do that sort of thing in the rap and hip hop world.


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Zild
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First, the BPM of hip-hop songs is all over the place unlike trance where you know most songs are going to be around 140bpm, hip-hop has a wider range. That means you have to know your songs you have to know what songs have similar BPMs because you don't want to have to chipmunk your vocals. Second the transitions need to me short and sweet, use the crossfader if that helps you. You don't have to beatmatch perfectly like you would with trance, you won't have enough time for that anyway. When a phrase ends bring in the incoming track then after that phrase ends cut out the other track. Third, learn how to scratch it will save your ass and nobody is going to respect you if you're spinning hip-hop and you can't scratch. Everyone is going to assume anyway that since you have decks and hip-hop records that you're the scratch king and you don't want to let them down. Also keep at it, to me mixing hip-hop is so much more fun that mixing trance thats my preference though.

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djshan
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lol. usually the hip hop transistions are not longer than 2/3 seconds. just fade swap.. LOL

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