wanted to get into a nice interesting thing here..i just mixed SAM SHARP - TWISTER into BLANK & JONES - A FOREST [Ron Van Den Beuken RMX] now when i opened the bass of the second tune i heard flanger sound coming...and yes the TAP [of the djm600] was off..

its sounds very cool, wanted to know if this typical to all basslines mixing together?

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Sometimes certain sounds that have the same frequencies in them can cause a 'flangy' sound when they are mixed together. I've had it a few times, mostly when mixing two hi-hats that sound very similar. It is a cool effect, but it doesn't happen to me very often.

Not all basslines do it though, only the ones that have the same frequencies in them.

Yea if you mix two of the exact same songs they make the flange sound and as you speed up and slow down one side it changes the effect. But i doubt someone would go out and buy two of each of the vinyls they have instead of just buying an efx machine.

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Originally posted by DJ 00 Tommy Yea if you mix two of the exact same songs they make the flange sound and as you speed up and slow down one side it changes the effect. But i doubt someone would go out and buy two of each of the vinyls they have instead of just buying an efx machine.

Well, two vinyls are cheaper than an efx machine....

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Originally posted by djxtension Well, two vinyls are cheaper than an efx machine....

I am saying two of each of the records you have... (your total number of records X2)

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Originally posted by DJ 00 Tommy I am saying two of each of the records you have... (your total number of records X2)

That would indeed be an expensive option for me. Damn, I could even buy a whole set-up from that money...

Basically what it comes down to is that the basslines are not perfectly matched. Either because they are naturally out of synch even though the beats are aligned or because the beats aren't perfectly matched.

It is very possible that the tracks will have the same bassline, as Sam Sharp worked with Ron Van Beuken on Twister. Same record label, same studio and same intruments hence the reason for the similarity in sounds and style.
A lot of producers keep the same intruments or effects settings on a lot of the basic sounds they use.

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Maybe some of the older DJs may remember this, but there was a technique that I remember from the mid to late 80s where the dj would play both copies of the same 12" to get that "flanger" effect. I remember that,particularly on a track called Germany Calling by Houseman.

Playing 2 copies of the same record to get that flange sound is a technique that many hip-hop DJs still employ today.

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Originally posted by DJ 00 Tommy Yea if you mix two of the exact same songs they make the flange sound and as you speed up and slow down one side it changes the effect. But i doubt someone would go out and buy two of each of the vinyls they have instead of just buying an efx machine.

Dude - what do you think DJ's used to do before the EFX-500 and DJM series?!! All the shit that's on them can be done manually, i.e. flanging, echo, looping. It takes far more skill than just pressing a button....

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Originally posted by Sunnyside Dude - what do you think DJ's used to do before the EFX-500 and DJM series?!! All the shit that's on them can be done manually, i.e. flanging, echo, looping. It takes far more skill than just pressing a button....

i'd like to see you do a manual 'zip' effect mate..

no, you can't do everything on the efx500 or DJM manually. you can do some of them (i.e. delay (2 records the same, with x-fader), filter (big EQ passes), flanger (more simply done with a send/return loop, although you can't alter freq. modulation like an effects unit can), transform (fader), pan (balance switch)) but its impossible to attain, say for example, a ring modulation effect without a ring modulator, or a reverb withouth a reverberator.

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Zabiela still uses the 2 copies to get the flanger effect sometimes. I have done it before also, very cool when you learn what youre doing -- however, its not that practical.

Thats kinda neat you found two different records that will do that. Also, Nem with his explanation was kinda cool. He always speaks wisdom (well, when he's not yapping about the SL-DZ1200's)

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