all i can think of is dont stick into the keyboard sequencer, and try it on different octaves, so itll work with the song, otherwise u gotta do some major editing in wavelab, which i have no idea about :S

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u didnt red it well , i said its on the right octave\accord...whatever it is...its just sound too loud and "off"
iv decreased the volume but hmm :S its sound weird

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actually i've never done this before but maybe your vocal will sit better in your mix if you cut the needed frequencies out of this mix. here's what i would try:

1)play your vocal solo and look at a frequency meter. Remember the global range of frequencies that the vocal uses (this depends on voice/chords), and write them down.

2)go back to your mix. If you have a lead playing at the same time as the vocal, the lead should go more in the background while the vocal plays. To do this, just cut a few dB from the lead, at the frequencies you have written down before. Do the same thing if you have a "huge" pad playing. The important thing, i think, is to let the place for the vocal to breathe in the mix.


i have no idea if this works, but i think it makes sense. tell me if it does something.


static blue

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I haven't done any tracks with vocals yet, but I think that decreasing the volume, adding some reverb and especially some eqing (and maybe a chorus fx?) will do the job. That's what I would do...moreover, just try everything you come up with (fx and stuff) until it'll fit the rest of the song.

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Build the track around your vocal. Don't add the vocal to a finished track. Loop the vocal and while it's playing tweek the sounds until they sit well with it. Layer all the instruments in this way (bass, drums, pads etc.)

well here's an example from what i ment to...
http://upl.silentwhisper.net/uplfol...load2/iwish.rar
yeah i know its a weird sample but it describe my problem

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Originally posted by ilalin Build the track around your vocal. Don't add the vocal to a finished track. Loop the vocal and while it's playing tweek the sounds until they sit well with it. Layer all the instruments in this way (bass, drums, pads etc.)

iv done it...

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ok, the sample sounds kinda cool...

well, here is what u need to try.. duplicate the track the vocal is on.. and PAN the one track to the right and the other to the left.. the adjust so the one sample is playing milliseconds after the other one...

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10x for that
anyother tips?

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Imagine your song in 3D. Your vocal is in the middle, kick and bass on the bottom, hi hats on top. Pads or any other synths could be close to the middle supporting the vocal. Each part has to have its own frequency space. The delay and reverb will give depth, and panning will provide left-right perspective. Don't have more than 4 elements playing at the same time including the vocal. By elements I mean: drums and bass, rhythm, pad, and lead.

Given all the attention that Sidechaining has gotten in the last few months, I'm surprised no one stated the obvious. The "original" purpose of sidechain compression is to solve the problem you're having. Essentially, if you mix the Vocals hot enough to pop out of a mix, the instrumentation falls into the back of the stereo image. Bringing the vocals back down to a level closer to the instrumentation causes muddiness.

Here's a solution.

isolate the vocals from the rest of the mix for a bit. Once you get the levels of the instrumental mix where you want them, Bounce them to a track, and save it. Now, go back to the vocal track. Level the vocal track to your specs. DO ALL OF YOUR EQ'ING AND PROCESSING! Now save your "polished" vocal track. The next step is where the magic happens. Arrange your tracks so that you can apply compression to everything that falls within the frequency range of your vocal track (typically leads and mid range). Without knowing exactly what range your vocalist falls into, I can't be more specific. Use a freq. analyzer if possible. Insert the vocal track into the side chain, so that the vocal signal will trigger the compression rather than the compressor's threshold. You'll waant to play with the levels a bit to get the vocals to cut through rather than mute everything, but there you go.