Ok I'm a little confused about what's going on with the media these days and I'm starting to lose all faith even in those that were more or less credible...
So first everyone's beating the war drums for the war
Then everyone's on the bandwagon of bashing the war and that it was bad and wrong and all that stuff
Now everyone jumped on another bandwagon and all of the sudden once again the war was good and all we are hearing are great things...so much so that this morning on the bus I saw someone reading THE SUN where the headline was "VICTORY" on the front page.
All this bandwagon jumping makes me rather skeptical. I know it's a great thing they have elections and all but I'm losing faith in many of the sources.
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If a single post beyond mine can be made without questioning or challenging the American involvement in Iraq - I will be surprised. This thread is about the vote - the "golden moment" of opportunity for a people who have not seen anything close in over 50 years.
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I think we are witnessing something that will spur a middle-east equivalent of the "collapse of communism". A "tipping point" if you will.
The world is very proud of the Iraqi people - what a marvelous moment of true, meaningful impact!
Much of what I've heard over the last few days has been that the Iraqi people are satisfied/content to be finally and rightfully accepting their roles in a democratic society.
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Jan-31-2005 14:26
starsearcher
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Registered: Jan 2003
Location: Toronto
quote:
Originally posted by rabbitjoker
Much of what I've heard over the last few days has been that the Iraqi people are satisfied/content to be finally and rightfully accepting their roles in a democratic society.
No doubt about that!
It's just that the constant bandwagon jumping by the media is rather frustrating and confusing to say the least.
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Jan-31-2005 16:41
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Listen to Fuad!!!
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IIRC official results will be out after 10 days (from yesterday)
Jan-31-2005 17:28
Ub3rBreaker
The broken one
Registered: Jan 2004
Location: Breaking Sh*t
11000 iraquis that now reside in Canada voted in the past couple of days.
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Jan-31-2005 17:43
ShadoWolf
ISOS
Registered: Apr 2002
Location: State of Trance
Starseacher: only watch/read the main stream media for major headlines and such. Use New Media sources for analysis.
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Jan-31-2005 18:00
drewfactor
werd
Registered: Dec 2001
Location: Hamilton, Ontario
quote:
Originally posted by ShadoWolf
Starseacher: only watch/read the main stream media for major headlines and such. Use New Media sources for analysis.
...that way, instead of listening to third rate liberal ideologues spewing mindless rhetoric, you can listen to third rate conservative windbags spew mindless rhetoric.
Sorry, I just had to make a cynical statement. I have to agree that going beyond the big headlines and commentary from our mainstream media gives you a greater perspective on issues.
Nevertheless, whatever the faults and failings on behalf of the war effort were over the last while, no one can deny the magnitude of this achievement for Iraq.
Jan-31-2005 19:24
ShadoWolf
ISOS
Registered: Apr 2002
Location: State of Trance
quote:
Originally posted by drewfactor
...that way, instead of listening to third rate liberal ideologues spewing mindless rhetoric, you can listen to third rate conservative windbags spew mindless rhetoric.
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Jan-31-2005 19:30
psychosomatica
500 posts. What a shame.
Registered: Jan 2003
Location: Toronto
I don't get why ex-pats get to vote. Not like any one of them know what's going on in Iraq anyway.
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Jan-31-2005 20:15
ShadoWolf
ISOS
Registered: Apr 2002
Location: State of Trance
quote:
Originally posted by psychosomatica
I don't get why ex-pats get to vote. Not like any one of them know what's going on in Iraq anyway.
Voting in most countries is based on CITIZENSHIP, not residency.
If you moved to, say, France, you could vote in the Canadian election.
Not Lieberal though, that would be treason.
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Jan-31-2005 20:17
AwakenedAddict
Transplanted
Registered: Oct 2002
Location: Berkeley, California
Re: Iraqi Elections
quote:
Originally posted by starsearcher
Ok I'm a little confused about what's going on with the media these days and I'm starting to lose all faith even in those that were more or less credible...
So first everyone's beating the war drums for the war
Then everyone's on the bandwagon of bashing the war and that it was bad and wrong and all that stuff
Now everyone jumped on another bandwagon and all of the sudden once again the war was good and all we are hearing are great things...so much so that this morning on the bus I saw someone reading THE SUN where the headline was "VICTORY" on the front page.
All this bandwagon jumping makes me rather skeptical. I know it's a great thing they have elections and all but I'm losing faith in many of the sources.
Kinda wonder why that pattern coincided with the presidential elections...
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