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Originally posted by Dan1584 I'm about to start DJing soon (yay for me!) and have a question concerning raising the bpm of a set. I would like to try to move my sets starting with Progessive > Trance > Tech-Trance > Psy-Trance ... I think that I can blend all that together just need to pick the right tunes, but how do you get the BPM to rise without it being noticable?

either :
1) increase it slowly during a break, but if done too much, it will screw the rythm up. id say max +1.5 on a 44, or 2.5 on a 33.
2) increase by 0.2 every 4 beats over not more than 2 phases at a time, so taht ists barely noticeable.

one thing you dont want to is start a track at 135 and end it at 140. progressive is about 135 bpm so gradually increase with each track till you get to 139 then drop some tracnce..after that tech-trance and psy should be no hasstle as teh faster the BPM gets the less noticeable the increaes are I find.

I usually try to raise the BPM very gradually during the breaks (At a time in a track when there is no beat) or every 4th or 16th beat so it's less noticeable. Also I wouldn't recommend raising the BPM by more then about 6%.

just one thing about raising the pitch, don't do it during or near vocals. People can totally hear key changes during vocals.

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Originally posted by dj chex just one thing about raising the pitch, don't do it during or near vocals. People can totally hear key changes during vocals.

or when the synth hook is very loud (or famous), because that is really obvious too. sometimes there will be a 10 second part that is very quiet (almost silent) and that works well too.

razzi.

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some songs just dont sound good when you pitch em up also. i actually make it a point to to find proggy or house songs that i can speed up.a perfect example of this is a track called 1917(julian poker remix). i played this at the record store and though wow theres a lot of elements in this song that if sped up it would be incredible.but even at +8% pitch on the tables i still wasnt feelin it. so i bought it and ripped and played it on my cdjs at +13%! and it sounds incredible. one of my favorite tracks from last year because of this.








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You need to make this a very gradual process.

When most DJs are asking this they mean how do I go from prog to full on techno in 30 mins. (Not meaning that you do).

If you are doing this for a dance floor it has to be a gradual process that isn't noticable to the listener.

Just as you have done a mix and faded out the other track just tap the track that's playing up just a touch. A few milimeters that's all. Then do the same with the next track.
If you make it too abrubt then people will notice and some may not even like it.

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Originally posted by bass.exe progressive is about 135 bpm

it ranges much lower than that most times.
native speed on most prog house tunes ranges from 128-132
135 is quite fast for housy beats.