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Trancer-X
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Turner: Fox’s Popularity Like Hitler’s

I've never been a big fan of Ted Turner, but after reading this today I think I'm beginning to warm up to the guy. LOL

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Turner: Fox’s Popularity Like Hitler’s

CNN founder Ted Turner is continuing his verbal war against the Fox News Channel and its billionaire owner, Rupert Murdoch, this time comparing the country's most popular news network to Hitler's Third Reich.

According to industry magazine Broadcasting & Cable, Turner also blasted Fox News as little more than a propaganda tool of the Bush White House.

Turner, in speaking to the National Association for Television Programming Executives' conference for the first time since being tossed out of Time Warner Inc. in 2000, acknowledged Fox's larger market presence.

But, he said, bigger isn't better, and he quipped that Adolf Hitler also "got the most votes when he was elected to run Germany prior to WWII," B & C reported.

And while "there's nothing wrong" with Fox News being a shill for the Bush administration, Turner continued, "it does pose problems for our democracy. Particularly when the news is dumbed down."

It isn't the first time Turner has slammed his former chief media rival and News Corp. owner Murdoch, whose American-held news properties include the New York Post. And it isn't the first time Turner has compared Murdoch to Hitler.

In 1996, USA Today reported in its "Year in Review" segment, "At a Time Warner shareholder meeting ... in response to a question, [Turner] said he was indeed sorry he'd compared competitor Rupert Murdoch to Adolf Hitler."

"Yes. I should have said he's a disgrace to journalism," Turner said, smiling. "But an Australian disgrace to journalism."

Other jabs followed, but in April 2003, following a speech Turner gave to the Commonwealth Club in San Francisco, he labeled Murdoch "a warmonger," claiming the News Corp. billionaire "promoted" the war in Iraq.

Regarding the war, Turner bemoaned: "We've spent 200 billion destroying Iraq. Now we've got to spend 200 billion to rebuild it, if they'll let us – and all to find a nut in a fox hole – one guy. ... He posed no threat to any of his neighbors, particularly with us there with overwhelming military superiority. ... [I]t is obscene and stupid."

If he has any better ideas, why doesn’t he run for president himself? Turner tackled that subject by saying: "I'm too old and too burned out to take on that responsibility. I thought about it when I was younger. I don't know if I could have gotten elected or not. It would have been a lot of fun to do when I had higher energy levels."

It’s possible that Turner is just upset he's no longer a true "rival" of Murdoch, since the latter is still in the news business and the former hasn't been in control of the network he founded for years.

He won’t criticize CNN much, though. "I have a responsibility not to be too critical of my old company,” he said. "It is a good company and I had a lot of experiences there. A lot of time things that are painful at the time they occurred turn out to be for the best."

He also has a lot of stock in the company, and doesn’t want its value to go down – how then would he come up with the money for his huge U.N. pledges?

http://www.newsmax.com/archives/ic/...25/161450.shtml

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Izzy
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Re: Turner: Fox’s Popularity Like Hitler’s

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Originally posted by Trancer-X
I've never been a big fan of Ted Turner, but after reading this today I think I'm beginning to warm up to the guy. LOL

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Turner: Fox’s Popularity Like Hitler’s

Regarding the war, Turner bemoaned: "We've spent 200 billion destroying Iraq. Now we've got to spend 200 billion to rebuild it, if they'll let us – and all to find a nut in a fox hole – one guy. ... He posed no threat to any of his neighbors, particularly with us there with overwhelming military superiority. ... [I]t is obscene and stupid."

http://www.newsmax.com/archives/ic/...25/161450.shtml

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Jan-26-2005 01:54

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Ted Turner should do something about that mop on his head he calls his hair....hard to take anything the guy says seriously when you consider he probably looks in the mirror each day and thinks its normal.......Oh yeah baby who,s the daddy.......

Jan-26-2005 02:06 Ireland

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Re: Re: Turner: Fox’s Popularity Like Hitler’s

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Originally posted by Izzy
peace is priceless

Perhaps that's much of the reason why we've never fully been able to achieve it.

It's not profitable.

Jan-26-2005 02:19 United States

imokruok
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Love that FOX!

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A FOXNEWS spokesperson responded: "Ted is understandably bitter having lost his ratings, his network and now his mind -- we wish him well."

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thats ok FoxNews has Geraldo and Oliver North... if thats not bad I don't know what is. I believe one of the joint chiefs called North "The biggest embarrassment to the United States Military in its History". As for Geraldo... lol... I don't need to say much except that the guy has proven to be a huge buffoon time and time again. Oh yeah and lets not forget O'Reilly... lol... what a clown.

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wolverine16
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O'Reilly and Hannity should both be shot for their blatant disinformaton & lies. The funniest thing is O'Reilly wont even admit he's a conservative, though he preaches the Bush talking points on everything except immigration, because he's so conservative he literally wants the military lining the Mexican boarder. Plus he's the most egotistical blowhard on the planet.

Hannity is such a mindless zombie he can't even make an argument. He spends his entire show quoting what one extreme person on the left said and keeps asking Ann Coulter why all Democrats think that way. I really love how he came on Al Franken's show at the DNC and admitted he was wrong about claiming Howard Dean was "advancing the theory that Bush knew about 9/11 ahead of time" and John Kerry said he personally burned down villages in Vietnam and then started telling those exact same lies the next day on his show.

I want to fight them both to the death!!! And then I will move on to the upcoming MSNBC "fair & balanced" duo of Scarborough & Tucker Carlson.

Fair & Balanced means Bill O'Reilly,Sean Hannity,Brit Hume, Carl Cameron, Oliver North, John Kasich, Geraldo Rivera, Laurie Dhue, Fred Barnes, Bill Kristol, Cal Thomas, Shepard Smith, Dari Alexander, Neil Cavuto, Newt Gingrich, Andrew Napolitano, Chris Wallace, Stuart Varney,Linda Vester, Tony Snow, Brian Kilmeade & John Gibson = Alan Colmes & Neil Gabler

Sorry for the rant, but I hate these people, they're the morons who wont admit they're a conservative media outlet and brought near 40% of people to still think at the time of the election that Iraq was connected to 9/11.

EDIT: Sorry, I forgot that there is a new Democrat on Fox...Zell Miller:

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Yoepus
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Little known tid-bit:

Turner helped create Foxnews.

When Mr. Turner sold CNN to Time Warner the FTC required Time Warner cable to give a future competing 24 hour cable news service access to Time Warner's cable network if the merger were to go through. That future competing 24 hour cable news service would be - Fox News.

Till 2000/2001 Turner sat as the board (and still is the largest shareholder) of AOL Timewarner. However despite being the most prominent board member he had tied his own hands behind his back in his ability to prevent a competitor to CNN.

What ensured was the rapid decline of CNN as the cable news leader to the new competitor Fox News which rose to number one almost overnight.

Tunner has had a long infamous gruge against Murdoch, he doesn't seem to be letting up.

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Jan-26-2005 04:28 Israel

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quote:
Originally posted by wolverine16

Fair & Balanced means Bill O'Reilly,Sean Hannity,Brit Hume, Carl Cameron, Oliver North, John Kasich, Geraldo Rivera, Laurie Dhue, Fred Barnes, Bill Kristol, Cal Thomas, Shepard Smith, Dari Alexander, Neil Cavuto, Newt Gingrich, Andrew Napolitano, Chris Wallace, Stuart Varney,Linda Vester, Tony Snow, Brian Kilmeade & John Gibson = Alan Colmes & Neil Gabler

EDIT: Sorry, I forgot that there is a new Democrat on Fox...Zell Miller:

An avid viewer I take it

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wolverine16
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quote:
Originally posted by Yoepus
An avid viewer I take it

I watch it once in a while before rugby practice, when I want to get charged up to hit people

Jan-26-2005 04:38 United States

Trancer-X
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quote:
Originally posted by wolverine16
I watch it once in a while before rugby practice, when I want to get charged up to hit people

Jan-26-2005 04:51 United States

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quote:
Originally posted by wolverine16
I watch it once in a while before rugby practice, when I want to get charged up to hit people

Rugby...isn't that the sport where you run around without pads bashing your brain into oblivion? Or is that the one where everyone huddles up in a circle to see how far up eachother's arses they can get their heads?