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Kev K
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Registered: May 2004
Location: Glasgow, Scotland
Evil1 Respect for Trance, Techno and other EDM

This thread was initiated because I read the thread titled "What does trance mean to you" but I wish to digress.

I've had many arguments with many people who don't think that dance music especially the kind we here prefer, deserves the same respect as other mainstream genres, rock being the principle choice of the people I have argued with.

I've been told for example:

"you can't describe a feeling with dance music cos it has no lyrics".

"dance music is all about making you feel good, there is nothing else"

"anyone can do it if they learn how, cos you have to use a computer"

"the computer does most of the work for you"

"not everybody can play a guitar"

I can't remember the myriad of points I have heard or spewed because I have argued so many points on this subject and I fully respect the time and effort that goes into ALL forms of music. I'm a student sound engineer and do not work with dance music 24/7 (had to get that bit in) but i'd like to hear other peoples views and preferably similair experiences, i'm sure there have been many.

Many many thanks to all who post as this subject means a lot to me.

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sandstorm03
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Registered: Feb 2003
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Re: Respect for Trance, Techno and other EDM

quote:
Originally posted by Kev K
This thread was initiated because I read the thread titled "What does trance mean to you" but I wish to digress.

I've had many arguments with many people who don't think that dance music especially the kind we here prefer, deserves the same respect as other mainstream genres, rock being the principle choice of the people I have argued with.

I've been told for example:

"you can't describe a feeling with dance music cos it has no lyrics".

"dance music is all about making you feel good, there is nothing else"

"anyone can do it if they learn how, cos you have to use a computer"

"the computer does most of the work for you"

"not everybody can play a guitar"

I can't remember the myriad of points I have heard or spewed because I have argued so many points on this subject and I fully respect the time and effort that goes into ALL forms of music. I'm a student sound engineer and do not work with dance music 24/7 (had to get that bit in) but i'd like to hear other peoples views and preferably similair experiences, i'm sure there have been many.

Many many thanks to all who post as this subject means a lot to me.


why do you feel that you have to prove to others what you believe in?


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Old Post Feb-10-2005 23:04  Italy
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Ory
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Registered: Feb 2004
Location: Stockholm
Re: Re: Respect for Trance, Techno and other EDM

quote:
Originally posted by sandstorm03
why do you feel that you have to prove to others what you believe in?


'Cuz my opinion > your opinion. I know you didn't aim that question at me, but I'm answering it anyway, because I'm a pompous asshole.


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If I wanted to listen to a DJ bang out shit as weak sounding as Andy Moor / Markus Schulz etc. i'd go listen to Armin van Buuren. Nothing fucks me off more than a fan that thinks a DJ can do no wrong. There is a lot of good music out there. How some people can be so easily pleased is beyond my comprehension.

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mto
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Sandstorm vs Ory.. Madison Square.


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Ory
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Registered: Feb 2004
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Glowsticks five dollars.


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Originally posted by DJ Mikey Mike
If I wanted to listen to a DJ bang out shit as weak sounding as Andy Moor / Markus Schulz etc. i'd go listen to Armin van Buuren. Nothing fucks me off more than a fan that thinks a DJ can do no wrong. There is a lot of good music out there. How some people can be so easily pleased is beyond my comprehension.

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mto
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quote:
Originally posted by Ory
Glowsticks five dollars.



I still think you two should shake hands. sandstorm is not as dumb as i thought he was, and even though you're annoying at times you know some things. Its hilarious watching you two in MD last 2 days.


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quote:
Originally posted by Ory
Glowsticks five dollars.


hopefully there will be firearms avail too.

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Ory
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quote:
Originally posted by mto


I still think you two should shake hands. sandstorm is not as dumb as i thought he was, and even though you're annoying at times you know some things. Its hilarious watching you two in MD last 2 days.


Haven't you noticed? I don't know shit, except my own flaws, which makes all you people's insults directed at me pointless. Go me.


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Originally posted by DJ Mikey Mike
If I wanted to listen to a DJ bang out shit as weak sounding as Andy Moor / Markus Schulz etc. i'd go listen to Armin van Buuren. Nothing fucks me off more than a fan that thinks a DJ can do no wrong. There is a lot of good music out there. How some people can be so easily pleased is beyond my comprehension.

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Location: London
Re: Re: Re: Respect for Trance, Techno and other EDM

quote:
Originally posted by Ory
'Cuz my opinion > your opinion. I know you didn't aim that question at me, but I'm answering it anyway, because I'm a pompous asshole.


Funny you should say this

Anyway, I agree, I was thinking about similar thing lately, except that I'm more into trance myself, and I'm unhappy to see how many people on TA actually stray away from trance as genre itself, but embrace some foreign cultures like progressive, house, techno and god forbid tribal
Little humor there, but still, I don't know what happened but I don't like it.

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mto
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Location: FL, USA

quote:
Originally posted by Ory
Haven't you noticed? I don't know shit, except my own flaws, which makes all you people's insults directed at me pointless. Go me.


Okay Socrates


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quote:
Originally posted by mto
Sandstorm vs Ory.. Madison Square.


it would have to be in the playground by the jungle gym, we should jump the armin tit .


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mto
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quote:
Originally posted by sandstorm03
it would have to be in the playground by the jungle gym, we should jump the armin tit .


Oh i got an idea! BACK YARD WRESTLING! I'll sell lemonade and provide chicks to carry round number signs.


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