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Radders2003
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Registered: Jul 2003
Location: Sheffield, England
Just doesn't sound right?

Hi, been practicing beatmacthing for awhile now. It isn't perfect, but it is getting there. Ok, my problem seems to be actually mixing the 2 tracks. I got 2 records and beatmacthed them kind of perfectly. But when i did the mix, it just didn't sound right. It doesn't sound like the mixes tiesto and avb do. It's like the track stopepd then the other track started, not actually a mix. But i did actually mix it, but it didn't sound like it was blended nicely. Any suggestions on what i could do? Maybe i'm trying to mix too late in the first track and too early in the 2nd track?


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Old Post Feb-11-2005 14:55  England
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Exodus17
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Re: Re: Just doesn't sound right?

quote:
Originally posted by Nou
Sounds like your mixing in too late on the out going track or to early with the incoming track. Try adjusting the phrasing.


+1

are you using the crossfader or the channel faders?

alot of ppl tend to leave the cross fader alone for most if not all thier mixes - xfader is normally used when scratching

like Nou said... youre prolly off on your phrasing, its imperative that you learn your tracks well so you know when you're almost out of time otherwise you get what you described and it sounds like one track just ends and the next just kinda takes over...

if you have em matched check your EQing also... an outgoing track is really noticable if you dont fade it out somehow

if you listen to tiesto and avb mixes you'll notice how the outgoing tracks die down some as the incoming track starts up...

abrupt mixes sound horrible if you dont work it right


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yeah, phrasing--something i'm having a hard time with now... oh well i'm getting there.


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definately sounds like your phrase matching...here is a way i practiced phrasing better....

start mixing the incoming track immediately after the break in the outgoing track. so que the incoming..wait for the break, release the incoming on the first beat after the break of the outgoing. bring the fader up after the first set of 32 beats. then play with your eq's. only use the bass eq in the beginning until after you get the hang of it. or try it after the mini break towards the end of the outgoing track, if there is one.

i am assuming you spin trance.


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Zack Roth
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wait, you're new to DJing and your mixes don't sound as good as two of the best DJs in the world? Weird.

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CosmoKid
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wait, you're new to DJing and your mixes don't sound as good as two of the best DJs in the world? Weird.


lmao


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Greedy
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just work on phrasing. There's much more to mixing than just beatmatching and sneaking in the song with ur faders.


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Re: Just doesn't sound right?

quote:
Originally posted by Radders2003
Ok, my problem seems to be actually mixing the 2 tracks.


Hehe, yeh i think there seems to be a problem here.


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Boomer187
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Registered: Aug 2001
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one of the most vital thing in djin is learning your darn tracks. know when a breakdown is coming, ow it sounds in the outro, does it come fast or slow, how is the incoming track setup at the start...is there a breakdown after 128 beats....



try to think of things like that. also start reading on harmonic mixing its never a bad idea to learn your scales.

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savetrance
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Registered: Feb 2005
Location: Phoenix, AZ

also key your tracks. nothing worse than a muddy mix.

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DJSTER
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quote:
Originally posted by Boomer187
one of the most vital thing in djin is learning your darn tracks. know when a breakdown is coming, how it sounds in the outro, does it come fast or slow, how is the incoming track setup at the start...is there a breakdown after 128 beats


try to think of things like that. also start reading on harmonic mixing its never a bad idea to learn your scales.



agreed.

Heres something that helped me when i was starting out http://djforums.com/tutorials/findingthekey.php and this http://www.harmonic-mixing.com/index.mv

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