Dude, what the FUCK.

That suckx. Goddamn MPAA or whatever, fuck 'em!

where they fall.. others shall rise

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ya i guess it really sucks that when you have an open wireless network with no security features enabled ANYONE can log on and download ANYTHING without your knowledge so you cannot really be held accountable for that can ya?

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Public trackers

Also, what dEsidEL said.

It is rather unlikely that ************* will go down. If it will go down, it will be if I choose not to run the site anymore, and not by threats from the RIAA or the MPAA. They have no juristiction on me. Secondly, since we do not deal with "warez" such as games, movies, applications, there is alot less focus on TT vs. some other sites such as suprnova and torrentbits.

Secondly, perhaps 5% of the content we provide is sold in stores in the US - and maybe even less that is presented by the music labels here. We do not offer Britney Spears or Metallica, alot of the music artists make their money outside the US as far as trance in concerned.

A few mixes have been posted up by "Highfish records" - and then we were contacted by the owner of this label which happened to find the mix on our tracker. We received a message from him, and you know what he said? I really love this site, and you guys are free to post all my stuff, just pass along the link to my company's website.

This is the attitude that more people should aim towards, coming onto sites and saying you are 100% AGAINST file-sharing, or you are 100% FOR file-sharing is a bit closed-minded. We should try and find a good middle-ground where both sides can enjoy the benefit of this technology.

I will not post any links to my tracker because I did the same on DJMixes2K and I've been very rudely warned and told of how they feel about my site, and that it is people like me who will be the end of trance music. Needless to say that was very childish and ignorant, but I hope more people can see the good, and not just the bad in what we do here, thanks for the time

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Originally posted by nycionx i think they will eventually do this to all the torrent sites

For sites that offer illegal downloads they damn well should.

What part of "The illegal downloading of motion pictures (and music) robs thousands of honest, hard-working people of their livelihood" don't you understand?

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Originally posted by rabbitjoker For sites that offer illegal downloads they damn well should. What part of "The illegal downloading of motion pictures (and music) robs thousands of honest, hard-working people of their livelihood" don't you understand?

I'm with u wabbit

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Originally posted by rabbitjoker For sites that offer illegal downloads they damn well should.

Except that the sites don't offer downloads, just hashes and links. The question arises as to who's liable here - by RIAA/MPAA logic, the sale of blank media might as well be made illegal because it *could* be used to make illegal copies.

I'm not trying to say that it's "right" for artists to be bilked out of their potential earnings in this way (which is a dubious claim anyway, but let's not go there), but the fact of the matter is that torrent sites have absolutely zero liability for the files people get through them. Site operators have no knowledge of the content that passes through them because they don't HOST any content! The sites don't host the files, they just provide a means to search for them - sorta like how an afterhours club is a convenient place to search for drugs.

This isn't about starving artists - the MPAA doesn't care about them. This is about a decaying industry flexing its corporate muscle in a vain attempt to retain its stranglehold on consumers.

As an example of the above, consider this: someone I work with has a few friends that run torrent sites, and one of them got a cease-and-desist order from the "Association". He e-mailed them back, stating that he doesn't control the files that are advertised, but he would be happy to filter the offending/illegal content should the Association provide him with a list. All he got was a curt reply saying that the information is on their site. It's certainly not there in any usable format.

The fact of the matter is, the RIAA/MPAA have time and again demonstrated their complete unwillingness to actually help networks and site operators filter out illegal content. They aren't interested in protecting the wallets of their signees - all they're interested in is using warped interpretations of the law as means to destroy any technology which they perceive as a potential threat to their business success.

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Originally posted by nycionx http://www.lokitorrent.com/ i think they will eventually do this to all the torrent sites (just i hope not ************* )

The Lokitorrent suit might have been a hoax. /. covered this here:

http://slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=.../1912208&tid=95

/. source:
http://earthreactor.com/index.php?n...iewtopic&p=2146

Was the Lokitorrent Suit a Hoax?
Posted by CmdrTaco on Thursday February 24, @04:31PM

kamhp writes "Recently earthreactor.com published an article stating that the whole Loki Torrent suit was a fraud and that it was all staged to collect donations toataling in the tens of thousands then sell the domain. "It seems that the owner of LokiTorrent decided to take the donation money and run, and to cover his tracks, scare the hell out of the entire p2p community. The scare tactic was probably nothing but a decoy to convince intelligent people not to ask the right questions" "

The world has yet to see any independantly-proven facts that the actors are loosing millions because joe blow and his 10 friends decided to download an album from the net.

I dont know how the RIAA can take it upon themselves to release figures of sales that COULD HAVE happened, vs. those that actually did.

Did anybody see any decline in the number of movies or music released this year as opposed to the number of movies released 5 years ago? Clearly if they have been loosing millions for a number of years, the artist's could not possibly afford to make music anymore, is this not true?

And when I pay $20+ to see a movie at a theatre, why do they still need to tell me file-sharing is bad? I already paid didn't I ?!

Now please consider this scenario, tomorrow the RIAA/MPAA suddenly vanish, they go out of bussiness because they didn't get their billions that they didnt loose in the first place. Can anybody here tell me that they truly believe you would never see another movie EVER made again? Do you not think another bussiness model would emerge that would feed off of the technology right now? Would there really be no more funding for movies/music, this would be basically the end and last era of all known forms of electronic entertainment? I highly doubt that.

Movies and music was made, produced, and listened to long before any of these multi-billion dollar organizations decided to charge people for their "service". And what has the RIAA done for YOU lately? Not the artist, I specifically mean "YOU" - when have they done something positive for the community? Do you really think an artist cannot get its work out to the masses through other means? With so many possibilities now, artists are choosing the apple's ipod alternative, or going solo without the need for music labels.

Since the artist's get only a small FRACTION of the profits from the sales, and the RIAA gets the biggest chunk of the money, who stands to loose more, the RIAA or the artists? Yea I thought so.

I dont know why people are fighting so much to defend organizations that feel like they have a service for us that we actually dont need. You pay them, then someone thinks they pay them too much - they try alternatives, and they are thrown in jail, why do people get thrown in jail and fined? Because the RIAA has alot of income from people who dont see the real picture.

The RIAA provides us with a service that we dont need, yet we pay for it. Who on here can raise their hand and say they have been introduced to any of their favourite music artists because of the RIAA? I doubt the number would be high. I didnt like the music I was offered, I looked elsewhere, and I found what I liked - yet the RIAA would love to throw me in jail, because I didnt take the path that they had layed out for me with the money that they took from YOU.