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fr3sh
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Registered: Nov 2004
Location: Vancouver
fine tuning the beatmatch

do you guys have any other pointers (besides practicing alot) for fine tuning the beat match?... i can basically cue up the record startiong at say 0% and use the pitch control to beat match... i don't touch the record at all except for cueing up... once they stay on beat i know that i am very close to the right pitch level... but i have to adjust the pitch like every 10 seconds but i want to be able to have them "stick" for longer than 10... when i pitch up a tiny bit its good... then i need to pitch down a tiny bit to keep it on beat...it seems as though they just won't stick

any tips on this fine tuning?

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AndskiSpeed
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What tt's do you have? If you have budget decks then there may be no other wya than to adjust the pitch every few seconds like with mine


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it doesnt seem, from your description, that you have them matched, It may be your decks' flutter, maybe to compensate this, have your pitch a little bit higher than what you thing the 'sweet spot' is. Then just use your finger on your platter to lightly slow it down


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if you're having to adjust it then it isnt in beat!

use your hands for the quick precise method of keeping it in time for more than 30secs-1min then you'll be reet


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fr3sh
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Registered: Nov 2004
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quote:
Originally posted by Frase
if you're having to adjust it then it isnt in beat!

use your hands for the quick precise method of keeping it in time for more than 30secs-1min then you'll be reet


they are on beat but just not for longer than 10 sec... lol... i've only been doing this for about 6 weeks but its just that fine tuning... and i have tech 1200 mk2s so i don't see why i shouldn't be able to strictly pitch ride the mix...or am i just asking too much from myself at this beginner stage?

maybe im hearing it wrong who knows... but when i fade in... they sound seamless for a little bit then need adjustment after about 10 sec... i have fluked out a couple of times and had them stick for about 1 min without adjustment... but i want to be able to do it again and again

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A83
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You'll get the hang of it. It took me some time with my cd decks to get the pitch right. I wasn't used to the studder mode. Turntables are much easier

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Zild
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quote:
Originally posted by fr3sh
they are on beat but just not for longer than 10 sec... lol... i've only been doing this for about 6 weeks but its just that fine tuning... and i have tech 1200 mk2s so i don't see why i shouldn't be able to strictly pitch ride the mix...or am i just asking too much from myself at this beginner stage?

maybe im hearing it wrong who knows... but when i fade in... they sound seamless for a little bit then need adjustment after about 10 sec... i have fluked out a couple of times and had them stick for about 1 min without adjustment... but i want to be able to do it again and again


I think you are asking a lot from yourself. It takes most people years to master riding the pitch. If your tracks only stay matched for 10 seconds then they're not matched, try making smaller adjustments. If you have to adjust it down to keep it in beat then you have to move it up 10 seconds after that then back down your missing your sweet spot and not making fine enough adjustments to the pitch fader.


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I think you are asking a lot from yourself. It takes most people years to master riding the pitch. If your tracks only stay matched for 10 seconds then they're not matched, try making smaller adjustments. If you have to adjust it down to keep it in beat then you have to move it up 10 seconds after that then back down your missing your sweet spot and not making fine enough adjustments to the pitch fader.


Exactly, you just need more practice, beatmatching is easy to learn but hard to master, and that mastering takes years, you need to be able to beatmatch for it to last about 30 seconds to a minute, thats would be pretty good, longer would be better obviously, but also you gotta learn how to quickly hear and fix a track that is drifting, even when you mastered beatmatching, you will never nail EVERY transition you do, so you have to learn how to be a pro at fixing a drifting transition, Armins a pro at mixing, aswell as Carl Cox and many other DJs, but they have times that the tracks will drift, but there good at hearing it before 99% of the worlds population will hear it and fix it right away, and this is something you will have to learn.

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quote:
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Armins a pro at mixing, aswell as Carl Cox and many other DJs, but they have times that the tracks will drift, but there good at hearing it before 99% of the worlds population will hear it and fix it right away, and this is something you will have to learn.


I believe this is really "PART" of what seperates great DJ's from the average bedroom DJ in some cases.

The slightest adjustment of the pitch fader makes a difference, you are obviously moving it far to much.. be gentle, not drastic.

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I believe this is really "PART" of what seperates great DJ's from the average bedroom DJ in some cases.

The slightest adjustment of the pitch fader makes a difference, you are obviously moving it far to much.. be gentle, not drastic.


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they are on beat but just not for longer than 10 sec


there not beatmatched then r they


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