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azndragon0613
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how do you make your songs?

hey guys, i got a question

do you guys make synths effects and basslines as you make the song or do you make a clip or sample or just 8 bars with everything playing and then make hte song?


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I usually try to start with an intricate 16 bar drum line, in FLStudio and build off that. If I can have 64 Bar drum lines, its a good day.

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wayfinder
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I usually try to pin down the main chorus part, then the various verse/bridge parts, then work out a song structure based on what I have.


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IDarkISwordI
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I go with what inspires me first. My personal expirience has shown that trying to use a rule of thumb with what to start with will ultimately end your inspiration for a track way too quickly. Instead, make music like its suppsoed to be made, go with what sounds best to you first and build off of it. Making it mechanical will show in your quality.

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I usually start with the basslines I come up with in Rebirth, then Rewire it up to Reason and try to make some loops of drums and other synthlines till I get the song structure down close to how I think I want it to go. For the most part though, the bassline is the building block of almost all my tracks.


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Registered: Jun 2004
Location: Dublin

i always start with the kick and bass. i like to get that dynamic perfect before i move on since i like massive kicks. and massive basses. ill shelf off all treble frequencies for the most part (unless either kick or bass has a satisfying click/squelch that i want to keep). then its on to some kind of lead instrument and/or 303 type line. mostly in the mid ranges. i have a spectrum analyser on the master bus pretty much the whole time and i leave a big dip after 8,000hz to drop some hihats in later. ill usually do the pads and ambiences last to plug the gaps left over but my stuff isnt particularly pad driven (its more riff centric) so it sometimes sounds like an afterthought.

kick and bass though are the consistant foundations of all of my tracks. i try to write songs that i would dance my nuts off to. alot of that energy comes from the kick and bass dynamic. a track that is otherwise very well produced but lacks that bass depth nad presence just loses so much energy. it also helps that because ive done this method for every song ive written ever (pretty much) ive gotten pretty good at programming bass synths and building kick drums. whereas im pretty shit at programming pads that arent supersaw type string patches. bleh!

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Vizay
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Usually I create the part that gives the song it's identity first, either a hook or a pad or something other strange that I can base a track around. then I just start building the main chorus from that. when that's done I set up percussions and stuff like that and then I just go wild with creating the whole track


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Registered: Mar 2003
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i don't make my songs anymore, i have them made by other artists for money.

man i love producing !!!


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Subtle
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I start off with the percussions, then I start looking for bass sounds and patterns... then i will build more percussion.. then I start to look for a melody.. i choose the key i want.. and start playing around with different notes and play on my keyboard... if I cant get a good theme, then i close the project and do something else...

if i get the melody right, i start layering sounds.. then I will start too arrange the thing.. making the build up from the kick is the usuall way to go... I build as i listen.. then i make a breakdown will all the melody bars etc.. and see if they all fit together.. most often the will not, which mean i got to adjust the levels and EQ on each track... and replace sounds which isnt very likable..

then i will start making more FX.. and try to find Subtle things to add some more depth to the track... i then listen over and over again.. when everything is arranged and mixed properly.. i will render the track to an mp3 and play in my Winamp.. sit down in my couch with a sigarette..

I will then, when not looking at all meters and stuff in Cubie.. i will get a more objective view of how thing sounds..

when i am satisfied i will then render the whole thing to a WAV file... which i call.. rawmaster.. then i open that in Wavelab.. and i use then the Timeworx Mastering compressor to get some compression and adjust the track too approx 0 db.. then i would need to compare it to anthoer mp3 on my machine to check if levels sounds right..

then i send the track to all my MSN friends and post it for some haunting feedback in the amateur production forum.. but im too lazy to adjust on the track after i posted it.. so after a few months i might look at the feedback and make another master file...

then i will put some M.I.K.E tunes on the stereo.. and get very sad and depressed cause my music isnt even 1/10 as godd


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ronk
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Registered: Nov 2004
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First I think of a melody and then I try to create a strings / piano / guitar / whatever melody which will be played in the background.
Then I create my kick first, play with it around til I get to the sound I want, from there I continue to the clap, hat and all the other percussions.
After all that I create my bass, my other synths, my lead, fx...all that stuff.
Then I start to think about the song structure.


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quote:
Originally posted by Vizay
Usually I create the part that gives the song it's identity first, either a hook or a pad or something other strange that I can base a track around. then I just start building the main chorus from that. when that's done I set up percussions and stuff like that and then I just go wild with creating the whole track


Sweet, that's exactly how I work too.

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