http://www.cnn.com/2005/US/03/29/fa...h.ap/index.html

So how will the religious right handle this piece of shit who believes 9/11 was the result of God's wrath at gays and lesbians? You think they'll eventually turn off the ventilator, like Delay did with his Dad, or will they keep this old fart ticking?

Sorry if I sound callous to this turd bucket.

Actually, I'm not sorry at all. Nevermind.

Okay, maybe a little sorry, but not too much.

Very confusing times......

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Wow, Falwell's sick? Personally, I believe the ACLU's gotta take a lot of blame for this. And the abortionists - when you kill 40 million innocent little babies, you make God mad. I really believe that the pagans, the abortionists, the feminists and the gays and the lesbians who are actively trying to make that an alternative lifestyle, the ACLU, the People for the American Way - all of them that have tried to secularize America - I point the finger in their faces and say you helped this happen.

Get well soon Jerry, you beacon for rational political discourse you.

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Originally posted by MisterOpus1 http://www.cnn.com/2005/US/03/29/fa...h.ap/index.html So how will the religious right handle this piece of shit who believes 9/11 was the result of God's wrath at gays and lesbians? You think they'll eventually turn off the ventilator, like Delay did with his Dad, or will they keep this old fart ticking? Sorry if I sound callous to this turd bucket. Actually, I'm not sorry at all. Nevermind. Okay, maybe a little sorry, but not too much. Very confusing times......

Normally I'd pull the plug (and believe me part of me says "Pull the Plug!!") but then I realise that keeping them alive is cruel and amounts to little more than torture...

Keep the bastard alive!! (And would it be too much effort to have some burning matches put under his toenails?)

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Originally posted by MisterOpus1 http://www.cnn.com/2005/US/03/29/fa...h.ap/index.html So how will the religious right handle this piece of shit who believes 9/11 was the result of God's wrath at gays and lesbians? You think they'll eventually turn off the ventilator, like Delay did with his Dad, or will they keep this old fart ticking? Sorry if I sound callous to this turd bucket. Actually, I'm not sorry at all. Nevermind. Okay, maybe a little sorry, but not too much. Very confusing times......

well, really, god did much worse things in the past to people that didnt agree with him...

Falwell and those like him are just using the Biblical principle of sowing and reaping. Would anyone have been upset if he had claimed that September 11 was the result of extremly bad karma? Yet the ideas are basically the same

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Originally posted by CyberneticAngel Falwell and those like him are just using the Biblical principle of sowing and reaping. Would anyone have been upset if he had claimed that September 11 was the result of extremly bad karma? Yet the ideas are basically the same

I'm sorry but I can't buy such an incredibly gentle comparison. I realize that may, in fact, be what he is stating, but why not state just that - that it was the result of an accumulation of all our sins (which the Bible clearly doesn't have much reference to in the New Testament other than the return or Jesus), rather than attempt to specifically name those so-called "sins", which clearly slandered and demonized perfectly normal individuals who are accepted by a numerous religions and cultures, including a good healthy portion of Christian religions? I mean, Christ man, why buy into his fucking version of who's fucking coined as a "sinner" - a homosexual, a lesbian, a person who's undergone abortion, when according to the Bible everyone fucking sins? With all due respect, he can go fuck himself for mentioning such "sinners" without due diligence to the motherfucking douchebag cheating heterosexuals who have a blatant disregard for their marriage vows and sanctity of their committment to both their spouses and their God.

Or how 'bout the fucking murderers?

How 'bout the rapists?

The pedophiles?

The warmongers?

The fucking liars and manipulators like Ken Lay?

The politicians that piss on the poor and turn a blind eye to the ever increasing number of folks falling below the poverty line?

No, he had to single out a POLITICAL fundamentalist bullshit point that HE and the fundie fucks out there consider to be "moral values" such as gays and abortion, while attempting to turn a blind eye to being fucking raped in the ass by all the other immoral "sinful" acts that go on to everyone else around them that he and the fundies just seemingly don't get around to addressing.

Hence my slight resentment for this piece of shit.

In this particular case, it would have been a bit more prudent for him to keep his point in more general terms.

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Originally posted by MisterOpus1 In this particular case, it would have been a bit more prudent for him to keep his point in more general terms.

I agree completly, even more I agree that all of the sins you named are equal to the sins Falwell named. In fact evey sin, from stealing one penny to the worst sin ever committed, are all equal. (I know some people define "moral" sin differently than "theological" sin but they are still both sins) Having said that I think that the people who are on the leading edge of the crusade against gay rights or the anti-abortion protestors are reacting to what they believe is a gross and widspread normalization of something that they consider to be a sin. Now one can argue that whether or not homosexuality is a sin. I personally don't know and really don't care. But if you accept that it is, the prospect of it becoming (or in this case remaining) widely accepted scares the hell out of you. It would be as though everybody in the world had suddenly taken up cannibalism and treated you as though you were an idiot for objecting. Falwell and people like him (I am looking at you Robertson) have created a subculture with its own music, schools, books, and methods of thinking. I am not attacking any of the little pieces that make up the Christian subculture, personally I enjoy a lot of Christian music, I just feel as though it creats a "Alamo" style feeling in the minds of some areas of the Christian right. They see themselves as Lot warning his neighbors on the night Sodom was destroyed

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Originally posted by CyberneticAngel I agree completly, even more I agree that all of the sins you named are equal to the sins Falwell named. In fact evey sin, from stealing one penny to the worst sin ever committed, are all equal. (I know some people define "moral" sin differently than "theological" sin but they are still both sins) Having said that I think that the people who are on the leading edge of the crusade against gay rights or the anti-abortion protestors are reacting to what they believe is a gross and widspread normalization of something that they consider to be a sin. Now one can argue that whether or not homosexuality is a sin. I personally don't know and really don't care. But if you accept that it is, the prospect of it becoming (or in this case remaining) widely accepted scares the hell out of you. It would be as though everybody in the world had suddenly taken up cannibalism and treated you as though you were an idiot for objecting. Falwell and people like him (I am looking at you Robertson) have created a subculture with its own music, schools, books, and methods of thinking. I am not attacking any of the little pieces that make up the Christian subculture, personally I enjoy a lot of Christian music, I just feel as though it creats a "Alamo" style feeling in the minds of some areas of the Christian right. They see themselves as Lot warning his neighbors on the night Sodom was destroyed

I very much agree, accept that part about Christian music. Still haven't found any worth listening to, but to each his own I guess.

Well said.

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with leaves all crimson conquered,
I yearn to shout,
and dance about,
and stick pickles in my honker...