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Jayx1
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Registered: Feb 2003
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Opposition wins no confidence vote but arrogant Liberals defy will of parliament

Unbelievable. Why cant these arrogant bastards admit they have been defeated? And people still want to vote for these guys? Sorry but now they are not only corrupt but also undemocratic. These guys think they are dicatators!!

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Normally, a battle over Constitutional minutiae is about as exciting as watching grass grow or paint dry. But not on Tuesday night, when the opposition won a narrow motion in the House of Commons demanding the government resign.

The Conservatives and the Bloc forced the issue in the House of Commons on Tuesday, winning a highly contentious motion approving the Liberals' ouster by a vote of 153-150.

But the Grits claim the motion isn’t binding, and they plan to stay put.

The reaction outside the House continued across party lines. “The fact is that this was a procedural motion,” defends Prime Minister Paul Martin. “The sending of a report to a committee. A procedure motion according to the expert opinion is not a vote of confidence or lack thereof.”

Needless to say, Conservative chief Stephen Harper disagrees.

“We have in office a corrupt party which is in the process of ruining this country's finances, and which now is ignoring the democratically expressed will of the House of Commons,” he fumes. “This government does not have the moral authority to govern this country. It has not sought the financial authority to govern this country. And it does not have the constitutional authority to govern this country.”

So who’s correct in this battle of rights and wrongs? The experts maintain in the end, it doesn’t really matter.

“It’s a procedural vote, which could lead to a confidence vote, if it comes back from the committee as a confidence vote," explains Professor Michael Behiels of the University of Ottawa. "So this is really the beginning of the end for this government.”

Liberal House leader Tony Valeri insists only a vote on the budget will really bring down the Liberals. But in the eyes of the public, the damage may already be done.

“I think this is really just politics at the moment,” Behiels adds. “It's grand theatre as usually happens with minority governments as they're about to go down to defeat, and so everyone is really jockeying for position in the upcoming election, which probably will be sooner than later.”

The real budget vote could take place as early as this week – if there’s still a government left by then. If it fails, Canadians could be headed to the polls again in June.


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Everything in this country is illegal.

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rabbitjoker
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Time for an election (which the Liberals will win with minority).


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Stingray
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Registered: Feb 2005
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Time for an election (which the Liberals will win with minority).



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MarkT
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Registered: Sep 2003
Location: Toronto

yep...Liberals, though slim...and the NDP make gains...the Conservatives not as much.

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Wurm
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Let's see if we can beat Italy's record. 49 elections in 48 years at one point, I think.


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Jayx1
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We are on our way to beating italy's corruption at least....


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Everything in this country is illegal.

"Socialism is a philosophy of failure, the creed of ignorance, and the gospel of envy, its inherent virtue is the equal sharing of misery…" Winston Churchill

‎"If you have ten thousand regulations you destroy all respect for the law" - Winston Churchill

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ShadoWolf
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Registered: Apr 2002
Location: State of Trance

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Originally posted by Wurm
Let's see if we can beat Italy's record. 49 elections in 48 years at one point, I think.


If only we could match Italy's record of fighting government corruption...

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mani_pulite


edit: or Ukraine's

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/europe/4057213.stm


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Matt
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I would just like to point out that the topic title is misleading. It was NOT a confidence vote.


But, it's obvious now that Canadians are gonna be subject to bitching and moaning from all parties until this election is called, so let's just do it and get it over with, so our government can get back to work.

I really wish Canada would step away from party-based politics and just have everyone run as an independent. I hate having to choose between voting for the MP, and voting for the party. I am sure there are lots of honest Liberal MPs who are not gonna get re-elected because of sponsorship scandal.


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FunKenLouis
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Bloc Quebecois will always fuckup your elections...

let quebec go... and do whatever you want after

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Matt
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Bloc Quebecois will always fuckup your elections...

let quebec go... and do whatever you want after



okay... but we're keeping our money. get your own currency and fuck off :P


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FunKenLouis
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okay... but we're keeping our money. get your own currency and fuck off :P


and we keep our ressuorces...

a new study showed that quebec would win 5 billion if we would seperate....

fuck your money bro

hehe

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ShadoWolf
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I am sure there are lots of honest Liberal MPs who are not gonna get re-elected because of sponsorship scandal.



That's why the party needs to be purged, reformed, and refounded.


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