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narcism
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Registered: Jul 2002
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Unhappy how can this still go on?

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In the past four months, six Muslim women living in Berlin have been brutally murdered by family members. Their crime? Trying to break free and live Western lifestyles. Within their communities, the killers are revered as heroes for preserving their family dignity. How can such a horrific and shockingly archaic practice be flourishing in the heart of Europe? The deaths have sparked momentary outrage, but will they change the grim reality for Muslim women?


I understand that it may be their customs and beliefs but isnt this taking it to an extreme, this is only one example of it though, there are any more.

Will it ever stop?

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Old Post May-15-2005 07:31  Malta
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Dupz
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Registered: Dec 2002
Location: Melbourne

fukn barbaric.. What a disgrace to Islam..

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For her family, such behavior represented the ultimate shame -- the embrace of "corrupt" Western ways.


"Corrupt" hey?? Killing your wife/sister/daughter is fully legit nowadays yeah?


The most disturbing thing.. I could bet my left nut that most of these men who perform "honour" killings are themselves embracing western culture more than anyone. Without a doubt they're the ones drinking alcohol, gambling and generally running a muck. They themselves are merely overcompensating for their own insecurities as a result of women (who have, for centuries, been vilified in the name of Islam) finally gaining some indepedance..

poor effort.. hang em by their balls..


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I tell ya what tho, and I'll try and find the link later, but I'm positive I read on the news the other day that a white person committed a crime!!! Yes! A white person committed a crime!!!

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I tell ya what tho, and I'll try and find the link later, but I'm positive I read on the news the other day that a white person committed a crime!!! Yes! A white person committed a crime!!!


Cheers mate im still laughing 5 minutes later.......


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Well, actually whitey, or the white devil as I like to call them, commit most of the crime in the U.S., but guess what unless we are talking about the a small amount of cases, the white devil doesn't use religion to uphold reasons for murder.


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surely these women would know the consequences of their actions in that community. why didnt they just move away if they knew their behaviour would cause their deaths.

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Well, actually whitey, or the white devil as I like to call them, commit most of the crime in the U.S., but guess what unless we are talking about the a small amount of cases, the white devil doesn't use religion to uphold reasons for murder.

What and every crime committed by a Muslim is because of religion?

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Not at all. In this case, though, yes.


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surely these women would know the consequences of their actions in that community. why didnt they just move away if they knew their behaviour would cause their deaths.

I'm no sociologist but I know it seems to be some kind of pattern that women who are beaten by their husbands find it very difficult to leave them (like Little Mo!) so maybe its a similar frame of mind?

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Not at all. In this case, though, yes.

So a small proportion of crimes by Muslims are for religious reasons, and also a small number of crimes by Christians are for religious reasons too?

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I'm no sociologist but I know it seems to be some kind of pattern that women who are beaten by their husbands find it very difficult to leave them (like Little Mo!) so maybe its a similar frame of mind?


the difference is that those women are in a relationship with the husband which causes all the diffculties with leaving, and most probably ddidnt know their partner would turn violent. these woemn on the otherhand should be able to reasonably foresee the consequences of their actions, and so should have thought about what they were doing before getting into it (not that im condoning it). its the same idea as a man say, who lived in a small village, perhaps a redneck type of place, and went about wearing sexy womens clothing, high heels etc. if he doesnt want the hassle this will bring, why not move away to the city where it is tolerated

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Not at all. In this case, though, yes.


actually, no. honour killings have nothing to do with islam.

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