Correct me if I'm wrong, but I've always seen "mc"prog as being commercial prog. The term 'mc' being a cultural reference to Mcdonald's, from the popular expression "McWorld", reffering to commercial american imperialism.

There was a lot of threads on this on about a year ago, search could give you some answers.

Anyway, here's a summary:

The word "McProg" was an attempt to label a particular style of progressive trance/house made by a TA with the nickname Pio. The idea came from the "McTrance" labelling of dutch trance by Ishkur, meaning it was to EDM as McDonalds and fast food were to gastronomy - produced for the masses without great artistic value.

It's basically a derogatoric(sp?) term for the style Marcus Schulz and GDJB made popular around late 2003 and 2004. It pretty much blended progressive house with epic trance, very inspired by tracks like Holden & Thompson - Nothing (93 Returning Mix) with a lot of reverbed elements. Other well-known producers for this style were Gabriel & Dresden and Perry O'Neill.

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Originally posted by paranoik0 It's basically a derogatoric(sp?) term for the style Marcus Schulz and GDJB made popular around late 2003 and 2004. It pretty much blended progressive house with epic trance, very inspired by tracks like Holden & Thompson - Nothing (93 Returning Mix) with a lot of reverbed elements. Other well-known producers for this style were Gabriel & Dresden and Perry O'Neill.

McProg doesn't resemble progressive house in the slightest bit.. it's just slow, boring trance with a lot of twinkly sounds.

Some more examples of mcprog producers: Probspot, Benz & MD, Andy Moor.

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Originally posted by Sinus McProg doesn't resemble progressive house in the slightest bit.. it's just slow, boring trance.

that's probably a better description, what i wrote wasn't sounding right to me neither

i do think it's not that far away from prog house tho

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So Sinus & Paranoik if mcprog is slow boring trance what the hec is mctrance?

watered down version of progressive trance. see Markus Schulz for refference

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Originally posted by stevieboy32808 So Sinus & Paranoik if mcprog is slow boring trance what the hec is mctrance?

the old overblown epic trance sound with huge buildups and 5000-bar melodies.. Gouryella and the likes

i think that's what Ishkur meant with that one, but go check his EDM guide, it's there i believe

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Originally posted by paranoik0 the old overblown epic trance sound with huge buildups and 5000-bar melodies.. Gouryella and the likes i think that's what Ishkur meant with that one, but go check his EDM guide, it's there i believe

thats just dutch trance. and it can easily be recognized by its abuse of the supersaw.

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Originally posted by RapidFire thats just dutch trance. and it can easily be recognized by its abuse of the supersaw.

yeah, mctrance = dutch trance. it's just a name used once as a pisstake, really

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For examples of McProg please refer to ETN Tlists in the tlist forums

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What I don't understand about about this labeling is that people on here think trance should evolve, there should be some new ideas, hasn't the sound evolved with this stuff? Yeah it might not be super energetic like epic trance, yeah it might not be as deep, rhythmic , sublte and dark and prog house/trance, but it is offering a new sound, an alternative to formulaic epic trance with big breakdowns and build ups. It is melodic, what's wrong with melodic elements in progressive? It's got some breakdowns like in epic trance, but they aren't all as super huge and theatrical, but they are emotional and thats important.
No I am not an ASOT listener, nor do I listen to GDJB, but I do respect some of these new artists for offering something for those of us who like the melodic and euphoric sound of epic trance, with the deep, rhythmic and more subtle sound of progressive house and trance. It's the best of both worlds, so whats wrong with that? Sure some of these guys do sound similar, but so do countless epic and prog producers as well. People copy each other, thats a fact of life. That doesn't mean it's all bad and commercial, do you hear "McProg" on MTV, or on those silly "trance" compilations from Ultra records? Not really. It's a new sound in trance, and you can either like it or hate it, but the sound has evolved and is continuing to evolve. There's still plenty of traditional prog and epic trance out there as well.

Last edited by Spirit5 on Feb-06-2006 at 01:52