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ShadoWolf
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Evil1 Muslims Use Bible As Toilet Paper!!

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While Muslims have responded with deadly outrage to the now-retracted report by Newsweek of alleged Quran desecration by U.S. interrogators, there was little outcry three years ago when Islamic terrorists holed up in Bethlehem's Church of the Nativity reportedly used the Bible as toilet paper.

Catholic priests in the church marking the spot where Jesus was believed to have been born said that during the five-week siege, Palestinians tore up some Bibles for toilet paper and removed many valuable sacramental objects, according to a May 15, 2002, report by the Washington Times.

Newsweek is under fire for a report in its May 9 edition that sparked protests and rioting across the Muslim world resulting in 17 dead, scores injured, relief buildings burned down and a setback to years of coalition-building against terrorists.

Newsweek's Periscope column written by Michael Isikoff and John Barry included a brief item alleging U.S. military investigators at the Guantanamo Bay prison found evidence that interrogators placed copies of the Quran down the toilet in an effort to get prisoners to talk.

Despite Newsweek's retraction, the outrage in the Muslim world continues.

In Saudi Arabia yesterday, the country's top religious authority, Grand Mufti Adul-Aziz al-Sheik, condemned the alleged desecration and called for an investigation "to alleviate the sorrow that befell Muslims."

"We condemn and denounce this criminal act against Muslims' most sacred item," al-Sheik said.

Afghanistan's government said Newsweek should be held responsible for damages caused by the demonstrations, and Pakistan said the magazine's apology and retraction were "not enough."

In contrast, during the 2002 church siege, the muted complaints of Christians under the Muslim-dominated Palestinian Authority gained little traction.

The Palestinian gunmen, members of Yasser Arafat's Al Aqsa Martyrs Brigade, seized church stockpiles of food and "ate like greedy monsters" until the food ran out, while more than 150 civilians went hungry, the Washington Times report said.

The indulgence lasted about two weeks into the 39-day siege, when the food and drink ran out, according to an account by four Greek Orthodox priests trapped inside. A church helper told the Times the quantity of food consumed by the gunmen in the first 15 days should have lasted six months.

Angry Orthodox priests showed reporters empty bottles of whiskey, champagne, vodka, cognac and French wine on the floor along with hundreds of cigarette butts.

"They should be ashamed of themselves. They acted like animals, like greedy monsters. Come, I will show you more," said one priest, who declined to give his name.

Computers were taken apart and a television set dismantled for use as a hiding place for weapons.

"You can see what repayment we got for 'hosting' these so-called guests," said Archbishop Ironius, according to the Times report.


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More stupid religous crap....the world would be better off without it.


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Old Post May-28-2005 20:26  United States
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George Smiley
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They gave out copies of the New Testiment to everyone in our school and half of them ended up torn to pieces and strewn across the play ground...

Where was the Islamophobe's outrage then??

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One of the best possible uses for both the bible and the kuran, imo...


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Oh and did the Palestinians do it to deliberately offend Christians or out of neccessity?

If they did it at all that is, which I would say is a matter of debate seeing as the Priests only said that the terrorists ate a load of food, where the claim they used the Bible for arsewipe came from is apparently a mystery...

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quote:
Originally posted by George Smiley
They gave out copies of the New Testiment to everyone in our school and half of them ended up torn to pieces and strewn across the play ground...

Where was the Islamophobe's outrage then??



lol we got em too, we got taken in in groups of 5 with the rector there and that. The guy handing them out was an old rector too. I laughed right in his face. Rector was not a happy bunny.

Also why the fuck should we get that shit pushed on us?

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St_Andrew
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quote:
Originally posted by DrUg_Tit0
One of the best possible uses for both the bible and the kuran, imo...


+1

This whole newsweek thing is blown out of proportion...

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quote:
Originally posted by George Smiley
Oh and did the Palestinians do it to deliberately offend Christians or out of neccessity?

If they did it at all that is, which I would say is a matter of debate seeing as the Priests only said that the terrorists ate a load of food, where the claim they used the Bible for arsewipe came from is apparently a mystery...


Wow they really taught you how to be a scholar real good at your unviersity didn't they?! You can't even find a source when its named and mentioned!

It's just sad the state of your academic institutions in the UK.

The claim that " Islamic terrorists holed up in Bethlehem's Church of the Nativity reportedly used the Bible as toilet paper"
came from "a May 15, 2002, report by the Washington Times."

Now in turn that Washington Times report is titled "'GREEDY MONSTERS' RULED CHURCH" and that source cites that Catholic Priests making the claim that:

"Even in the Roman Catholic areas of the complex there was evidence of disregard for religious norms. Catholic priests said that some Bibles were torn up for toilet paper, and many valuable sacramental objects were removed. "Palestianians took candelabra, Icons and anything that looked like gold," said a Franciscan, the Rev. Nicholas Marquez from Mexico."

Come on Georegy, I'm disappointed.
I thought you were at least capable of a tad of research, for god-sake you were supposed to have been trained in doing this exact type of thing for the past who-knows how many years you've been learning Middle Eastern and Political Studies.

Anyway a copy of the article can be found here:
http://www.internationalwallofpraye...gton-Times.html
Confirmation that it actually ran in the Washington's Time can be found here:
http://nl.newsbank.com/nl-search/we...rs%20AND%20date(2002)&p_field_date-0=YMD_date&p_params_date-0=date:B,E&p_text_date-0=2002&p_perpage=10&p_sort=YMD_date&xcal_useweights=no

Now if you are trying to make the ridicilous argument that the Palestinians had a "necessity " to use the bible as toilet paper you are really making a far-reaching and stupid argument. Afterall, was it a necessity to steal "anything that looked like gold" and sacramental objects?!


If you were to make an argument against the claim, the best would be ad-hominem or to attack the credibility of the priests themselves.

Seriously Georgey, I know you like to take the contrarian point just to piss people off, but this time you really have made yourself look ridicilously stupid.


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quote:
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+1

This whole newsweek thing is blown out of proportion...


But its not the western media that has blown it out of proportion this time. I do think however that Newsweek should pay indemities to Afghanistan and the people killed due to the riots this false piece of reporting caused.

I'm sick and tired of the media spewing lies, confirm your sources and grow some testicales.


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quote:
Originally posted by Yoepus
But its not the western media that has blown it out of proportion this time. I do think however that Newsweek should pay indemities to Afghanistan and the people killed due to the riots this false piece of reporting caused.

I'm sick and tired of the media spewing lies, confirm your sources and grow some testicales.


I know, good thing with it i guess is that at least the western countries are not the only ones with a stupid media...

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quote:
Originally posted by Yoepus
But its not the western media that has blown it out of proportion this time. I do think however that Newsweek should pay indemities to Afghanistan and the people killed due to the riots this false piece of reporting caused.

I'm sick and tired of the media spewing lies, confirm your sources and grow some testicales.

News magazines don't kill people, Muslims do.

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