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Dervish
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Black? What is it?

I'm confused, why does having for example one black parent instantly make you black? I mean like if someone has a black parent and a white one they are most likely to be called black (perhaps mixed race) but probebly black.


For example:

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1857 - Mary Seacole - the Black Nurse

Mary Seacole the Black nurse visited Brighton and mentions it in her book, saying that the Journey across Panama by train was as smooth as the journey from London to Brighton. Her best selling autobiography, entitled 'Wonderful Adventures of Mrs. Seacole in Many Lands', was first published in 1857.

Mary Seacole was born Mary Jane Grant in Kingston, Jamaica in 1805. She was a businesswoman, traveller, gold prospector, writer and nurse. Her father was a Scottish army officer, and her mother a descendant of African Slaves.


>http://www.black-history.org.uk/seacole.asp<



She was just as white as she was black how come she's instantly black (halle berry is half white and yet.... black if I'm not mistaken I mean remeber the oscar speach)?


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Michael19
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helle berry is more black then white i think. As soon as i see her, i think she looks black, so i call her black.

i suppose mixed race is the correct name for her.


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Dervish
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Wiki says

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Berry was born in Cleveland, Ohio. She was named after Halle's Department Store, a local landmark. Although she generally is considered African American, she is bi-racial, with a white English-born mother, Judith Ann Hawkins, and a black American father, Jerome Berry.


Half white half black. So she is just as white as black. It's like being black is some mark or something. Previously a hiderance and mark of "inferiority" now of "empowerment". But why is that?


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a child from mixed parents is going to look more black than white

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Dervish
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a child from mixed parents are going to look more black than white


NONONONONONO just "not white" thats the problem.


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But she looks more black than white, then i guess she is white? no?

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How'd you mean?


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metalgearsolid
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so wait is she black or white

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so wait is she black or white

both


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Dervish
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See I'd say both are just percived. Just labels, this kind of example just shows the sillyness of it. Same with nationalitys.


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Actually that is an interesting point Dervish brought up, I have a friend who's father is black and mom is white. His friends, mostly white, still consider him to be "ethnicly" black (can't describe it any better rightnow) and "culturaly" white. Yet, he identifies himself as black. Which is strange, he's as white as he is black.


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Michael19
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quote:
Originally posted by Dervish
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Half white half black. So she is just as white as black. It's like being black is some mark or something. Previously a hiderance and mark of "inferiority" now of "empowerment". But why is that?




I dont think it matters if one of her parents is white. I still think she looks more black then white.


Black has also been associated with negative and bad things.


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