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Groundhog Boy
Stupidity Offends Me

Registered: May 2005
Location: New York, NY
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| quote: | Originally posted by star-traveller
Are you threatening me ? I thought we have a freedom of speech here. |
We do, and she's using her freedom to tell you to fuck off.
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"Go back to bed america your government is in control
Here's American Gladiators, here is 56 channels of it,
Watch these picturary retards bang their fuckin' skulls together and congratulate you on living in the land of freedom,
Here you go America you are free to do as we tell you
We want your soul
Your cash, your house, your phone, your cash, your house, your life" -Adam Freeland - We Want Your Soul
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Nov-15-2006 15:40
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Sunsnail
Global Moderator

Registered: Sep 2004
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Nov-15-2006 20:41
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Moongoose
Supreme tranceaddict

Registered: Apr 2003
Location: Celje, Slovenia
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Ive just started watching Boston legal (excellent show by the way, if you don't know about it yet try to get your hands on it. I'm mad at myself for not picking it up before) and i got to and interesting episode. Basically a guy protected his house against invaders by running 50.000 volts of electricity trough the fence, some other guy tried to rob him and got shocked so badly that he got paralyzed and sued the man he was trying to rob.
Now there are many urban legends floating around about robber suing because they got hurt during their robbery but i still thought it would make for an interesting discussion about the right of the person to defend himself, his family and his property..
I myself have a slight moral dilemma with this point as i am for giving the homeowner many liberties for protecting his property but i am against guns as i believe that they are dangerous and that the general public is too stupid and/or irresponsible to be in most cases able to use them safely and responsibly. These two points cause me much headache as a gun would be the most effective weapon to fend off a robber (does a homemade flamethrower qualify as a gun? That would certainly get rid of the robber one way or the other though it probably does qualify as a firearm which is what i should have said i am against in the first place probably).
Another discussion point could be just how far one should be allowed to go to protect himself, at what point does overkill begin and at what point do you go from a man defending his property to a vigilante, hunting down the bastard who dared to try to rob you. Perhaps a comparison that shows how different laws effect a persons safety in various countries. I don't know the situation in France, but if i have learned anything from watching too much much TV is that americans are allowed to use anything short of a bazooka to shoot a bad guy with if he dares to rob him, while at the other hand where i live i believe you aren't allowed to even touch the robber even if you see him walking away with your stuff unless he attacks you first. People get pass this law with the "he fell down the stares" argument which because this law is incredibly stupidly written is counted even if the house that was robbed is missing a staircase (at least thats what i am told by the lawyers i know, but i`m not an expert in law so they may just be pulling my leg)
Dont know how long your presentation is supposed to be (i havent raised so many points so this could be a short one), i used to constantly run my mouth off so mine were usually very long. I knew i had the mouth of a lawyer but being an idiot i choose to be a geek instead of opting for a career of big bucks, nice suits and gorgeous female interns (another Boston Legal moment here). I still curse myself sometimes for making that bad decision.
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Nov-15-2006 23:08
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