haha they just work differently

you can use a dj turntable for audiophile uses, but not the other way around....DJ turntables have pitch control (you know, to get your records synced up), a normal turntable doesn't. DJ turntables have slipmats, a normal turntable doesn't (i e when you hold the record down it "sticks" to that rubber thingy on the platter, also stopping the platter). DJ turntables have needles that can take backward spinning as well as forward spinning, normal turntables don't. DJ turntables have anti skipping, normal turntables don't (do they?)

That about it?

What about the pressure? Obviously, audiophile turntables have an edge in sound quality... where does this tend to come from, with equally priced models? What about the amount of pressure on the record?

afaik, the Technics 1210 had quite a good reputation as an audiphile turntable, too. The LPs are not made "more durable", they wear and tear just the same, acetates even faster. As for stylus pressure, the DJ cartridges are usually set up with more weight to prevent needle skipping. In the "audiophile" setup you have no floor shaking and scratching going on so you can use less weight which reduces stress on the vinyl. But the needle needs to be made for using little weight (maybe 1g-1.5g).
The audiophile TT will have the most stable engine with no speed fluctuation at all (DJ TTs try to do the same, but that is very expensive). The audipohile TT will have a very solid platter, to prevent any shaking, and will have some "suspension" to keep the bass from the speakers from moving the record (same for DJ TTs, but again price is the problem).
You can spend 10.000$ on the tonearm alone, so there seems to be lot of room for improvement from a DJ TT to the audiophile one.
The "perfect" DJ TT would be taking the best audiophile TT and adding pitch-control, a high weight cartridge/stylus and making it stable in terms of abuse (Beer, smoke from Cigs and machines etc...)
but i'm no expert....

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I've got a Technics Direct Drive TT...audiophile, though.

It *still* rocks!! muahahaha....

What about the Albums themselves?

Like, Aphex Twin is releasing TWO versions of his newest album, one specially pressed for audiophiles... any thoughts on this?

Bump?

as far as I know(this may not be right) but generally the thicker the record, the better the sound. They can press it harder without the worry of the grooves poking thru to the other side.
Black vinyl is better than colored...i dont know why, and I cant remember where I read all this, but I did a paper on vinyl, so ill go find the references and report back.

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AFAIK, vinyl pressed for DJ usage is pressed at a higher volume or amplitude than old LPs. This means that you get a better S/N ratio, but also means that you can fit less onto the record. With a standard DJ 12", you can fit around about 11-12 minutes per side (at 33) whereas on old LPs you used to get anything up to about 45 minutes (I think).

Also, audiophiles hate direct drive turntables. Their choice is generally belt drive. The reason for this is that they think there is too musch motor noise and vibration that filters through to the stylus when the motor is in direct contact with the platter. Of course no-one normal would ever be able to hear this noise, but then we are talking about audiophiles who would be prepared to spend tens of thousands on a stylus, for instance.

Hey now!

There's more than one definition of an 'audiophile' out there. Just because it is an outlet for obsessive/compulsive disorder for SOME doesn't mean that ALL are that far gone!

It just mean that one loves music, especially the accurate reproduction of music the way the engineer, musician, etc. intended, and one who is fascinated with the methods in obtaining this accurate reproduction. It doesn't mean you are WEALTHY and all...

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Originally posted by Gluegun It just mean that one loves music, especially the accurate reproduction of music the way the engineer, musician, etc. intended, and one who is fascinated with the methods in obtaining this accurate reproduction. It doesn't mean you are WEALTHY and all...

Agreed!
But being wealthy sure makes it easier to get that accurate reproduction you're looking for

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i dont know about the belt drive vs direct drive...
isn't D/D better because the belt drives fluctuate a little in speed?

correct me if i'm wrong....

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Uh, I'm pretty sure the one *I* have is DD, and, honest to god, I couldn't care less about any supposed sound in the thing...

it's still the best sound I've ever heard...

Anyways, uh, the thing about me and stuff is that I am a Headphone audiophile. In other words, I don't have any money, so I go the easy/cheap way to get that accurate sound! Hehehe!

I mean, heck, I just helped a friend achieve some of the best 'cheap' accurate sound out there...

using these two pieces of equipment:

http://www.radioshack.com/product.a...%5Fid=42%2D6014

http://www.headphone.com/layout.php...ctID=0020100100