I am an Atheist I can't see why people even believe in god or an afterlife.

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Originally posted by ::TranceVanDyk:: out of curiosity, which worldview/opinion of the world do you hold to? Naturalist - Atheist/Evolutionist/Agnostic/Secularist

Surely you can believe in evolution and be secular and still believe in God(s)?

Anyway, I disproved the existence of God in the chill out room so after everyone's read that nobody will be able to chose anything other than a!

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Originally posted by George Smiley Surely you can believe in evolution and be secular and still believe in God(s)?

evolution does not have any belief in a god. if someone says they believe both, they are fooling themselves.

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Originally posted by ::TranceVanDyk:: evolution does not have any belief in a god. if someone says they believe both, they are fooling themselves.

When you say that you mean a belief in your image of God

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Originally posted by George Smiley When you say that you mean a belief in your image of God

no, i mean, a belief in a creator/diety of any image. some people want to believe in a middle ground that isnt there. there is no provision about god or a god in the evolution theory. if so, show me where it is.

the opposite is true for a theist. there is no theistic religion that believes evolution.

you're either on one side or the other.

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Originally posted by ::TranceVanDyk:: no, i mean, a belief in a creator/diety of any image. some people want to believe in a middle ground that isnt there. there is no provision about god or a god in the evolution theory. if so, show me where it is. the opposite is true for a theist. there is no theistic religion that believes evolution. you're either on one side or the other.

Er...

No you're still using the Christianity model (you dont seem to be able to see outside of it)

Why cant somebody believe in a God and the theory of evolution? Evolution has nothing to do with God, it merely states that animals evolved from previous animals. Why cant somebody believe in a God and that? Maybe 'God' was the one that mixed the green slime up?

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Originally posted by George Smiley Er... No you're still using the Christianity model (you dont seem to be able to see outside of it) Why cant somebody believe in a God and the theory of evolution? Evolution has nothing to do with God, it merely states that animals evolved from previous animals. Why cant somebody believe in a God and that? Maybe 'God' was the one that mixed the green slime up?

i can think outside of it.

i never said one person cant believe in a god AND evolution. some people do. but in the evolution theory, there is no provision for a god. a god, any god. ive never read in a science textbook, "god mixed the green slime up" ive never even seen that "god could have mixed it up" in any textbook. ive never even seen the word "god" in any textbook unless to mention the ID theory and alien theory in one vague paragraph.

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Originally posted by ::TranceVanDyk:: i can think outside of it. i never said one person cant believe in a god AND evolution. some people do. but in the evolution theory, there is no provision for a god. a god, any god. ive never read in a science textbook, "god mixed the green slime up" ive never even seen that "god could have mixed it up" in any textbook. ive never even seen the word "god" in any textbook unless to mention the ID theory and alien theory in one vague paragraph.

Why would they?!?!?!?!?!?!? Fuck's sake! Have you ever seen God mentioned in a maths book? No so does that mean mathemeticians have disproved God?! JESUS!! Evolutionists say animals evolved from other animals - they do not say animals evolved from other animals therefore God does not exist. The objective of the evolutionists was not, as you seem to mistakingly believe, to disprovew the existence of God, it was merely to find out the truth of our origins, just like every other single scientific theory is a search for truth

God has nothing to do with evolution!!!

Evolution states that animals evolve from previous animals. The theory therefore disproved CHRISTIANITY as told by the Bible. You cannot think outside of the box because to you Christianity = Religion. Therefore, because evolution disproved CHRISTIANITY you assume it must also claim to disprove religion (ie God) It doesn't and makes no such claim.

You're just having a complete mare comprehending what "God" actually means

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Originally posted by George Smiley Why would they?!?!?!?!?!?!? Fuck's sake! Have you ever seen God mentioned in a maths book? No so does that mean mathemeticians have disproved God?! JESUS!! Evolutionists say animals evolved from other animals - they do not say animals evolved from other animals therefore God does not exist. The objective of the evolutionists was not, as you seem to mistakingly believe, to disprovew the existence of God, it was merely to find out the truth of our origins, just like every other single scientific theory is a search for truth God has nothing to do with evolution!!! Evolution states that animals evolve from previous animals. The theory therefore disproved CHRISTIANITY as told by the Bible. You cannot think outside of the box because to you Christianity = Religion. Therefore, because evolution disproved CHRISTIANITY you assume it must also claim to disprove religion (ie God) It doesn't and makes no such claim. You're just having a complete mare comprehending what "God" actually means

your missing the point entirely. u cant be one or the other. as you said yourself, god(any god) has nothing to do with evolution. evolution doesnt believe in a creator god. if there is no creator god, there is no god, hence, u cant believe in a god and evolution at the same time.

if u think evolution is science, and u believe in science whole-heartedly, then u know mainstream science does not recognize a god of any kind. or any deity. so i dont know why you think belief in both a god and evolution at the same time is a plausible notion.

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Originally posted by ::TranceVanDyk:: your missing the point entirely. u cant be one or the other. as you said yourself, god(any god) has nothing to do with evolution. evolution doesnt believe in a creator god. if there is no creator god, there is no god, hence, u cant believe in a god and evolution at the same time. if u think evolution is science, and u believe in science whole-heartedly, then u know mainstream science does not recognize a god of any kind. or any deity. so i dont know why you think belief in both a god and evolution at the same time is a plausible notion.

Oh my god!!! listen to what he just said, then think about it 10 more times and perhaps you will understand.