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Oct-22-2001 17:19
Mandrick_v
Supreme tranceaddict
Registered: Jul 2001
Location: Toronto, On
Mazing...
Damn amazing tune...
Oct-22-2001 20:58
freemoneee
tranceaddict in training
Registered: May 2001
Location:
a.k.a Airwave - Save me??
Sounds an awful lot like Airwave - Save me...
L-Vee running out of ideas? JK
nice song though
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Oct-23-2001 14:23
m0sh
Ibiza 05'
Registered: Jan 2001
Location: Israel,kfar shmaryahu τως
i had it b4 it was posted and i tought this is airwave-save me
or is a lazy remix by airwave that is a copy of save me
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Oct-24-2001 19:55
djgroove
Senior tranceaddict
Registered: Sep 2001
Location: Florida
many dj's used this track and people indentified this as airwave's "save me" remix, but this is the track. Great tune
Oct-24-2001 21:10
Lilith
Meowsies!
Registered: Nov 2000
Location: Maximum Security twilight home for cats
This one is the pick of the tracks, all of which where quite good. A very nice song, Im quite impressed by it.
Oct-25-2001 07:31
breakdown
trancEaddict x
Registered: Jan 2001
Location: .
arguably similar to Airwave - Save Me
but i think this tune is more qualities of a classic track..
that break is awesome.....
better than Save Me anyday....
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Oct-25-2001 10:35
kluba_702
tranceaddict supreme
Registered: Aug 2001
Location: Boston, USA
i thought it was good tune also, but couldn't shake the visions of save me outta my head
Oct-26-2001 02:21
m0sh
Ibiza 05'
Registered: Jan 2001
Location: Israel,kfar shmaryahu τως
What i dont get is why they didnt call this version
airwave-save me(club mix) or somthing like that
The Original King Of Clubs - Revelation doesnt even sound like
Airwave-Save Me......
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Oct-26-2001 06:09
Azareal
Senior tranceaddict
Registered: Oct 2001
Location: Vancouver, Calgary
Not Vinyl - Rehashed 'Save Me'
Just a heads up - while the new posting of the King of Clubs remix is pretty banging, I doubt it's authenticity - definetely airwave overlapping the mix - almost 100% similar beat to their hit 'Save Me'. Also, the beginning of the track is broken up - the beat isn't 4/4 and the beats change up in all the wrong places (as A DJ - you can hear the change up as you count over the 8 standard drub beats). The end of the song is fine - the beat stays constant and change ups in layers are placed over the 1rst beats in the right places.
The beginning of the track also varies in speed - I tested it against a standard back beat I use for mixing, and had to keep speeding up and slowing down the song to get it to match the beat. You might want to look at placing Airwave's ' Save Me' in lieu - almost identical track that hasn't been rehashed. King of Clubs is 100% impossible to mix over turntables, and can only be mixed digitally with a lot of reworking. Sorry to slag the song - just giving Dj's out there a heads up.
Oct-26-2001 19:20
breakdown
trancEaddict x
Registered: Jan 2001
Location: .
Re: Not Vinyl - Rehashed 'Save Me'
quote:
Originally posted by Azareal Just a heads up - while the new posting of the King of Clubs remix is pretty banging, I doubt it's authenticity - definetely airwave overlapping the mix - almost 100% similar beat to their hit 'Save Me'. Also, the beginning of the track is broken up - the beat isn't 4/4 and the beats change up in all the wrong places (as A DJ - you can hear the change up as you count over the 8 standard drub beats). The end of the song is fine - the beat stays constant and change ups in layers are placed over the 1rst beats in the right places.
The beginning of the track also varies in speed - I tested it against a standard back beat I use for mixing, and had to keep speeding up and slowing down the song to get it to match the beat. You might want to look at placing Airwave's ' Save Me' in lieu - almost identical track that hasn't been rehashed. King of Clubs is 100% impossible to mix over turntables, and can only be mixed digitally with a lot of reworking. Sorry to slag the song - just giving Dj's out there a heads up.
hmmmm i disagree.. its actually easier to mix that a lot of other songs..
or else pvd, armin, ferry, tiesto wouldn't be playing it would they
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Oct-27-2001 00:42
Azareal
Senior tranceaddict
Registered: Oct 2001
Location: Vancouver, Calgary
I am referring to this copy of the song - read on for more...
I mean to say that I doubt it is this exact version of the song that they are playing. Most songs out there fall along a standard 4/4 beat. The middle and end of this version of King of Clubs is indeed 4 on the floor, but the beginning is not. As the beat is built up, the new layers of sound are added at irregular intervals (instead of falling on the first beat of the bar).
All songs also have a standard speed (beats per minute) - something that stays constant throughout the entire song. This is so that once you find the beat of the song on turntables, you can start your crossfade into another song knowing that the beats per minute will stay the same, and the tracks won't fall out of synch. This version, and all others of King of Clubs (Airwave) that are available online contain changed up bpms which either means someone has retouched the song, or the song is from a live vinyl rip where the song is being sped up while being copied over the computer.
While Corsten, Armin, Tiesto etc ... may be playing King of Clubs Airwave Remix (which is almost 100% similar to Airwave's hit Save Me) I am saying that this version available is very very difficult to mix because of the changing bpm's and irregular 4/4 backbeat. Hopefully I am clear in this post - I realize not everyone is familiar with the intricacies of beat matching.... Cheers