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Chris Larkin
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Registered: Jul 2005
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To be fair, it wasn't the religion that did the killing, it fas the fear factor that any massed gathering in Iraq is going to cause. It probably wasn't Idea Of The Year 2005 to have this festival go ahead, but it's not as if you can blame these people for wanting to continue tradition.
Mind you, the 'insurgency' must be having a right laugh - they launched three mortars at the crowd, which got them edgy, but didn't do much, and before you know it, you've got potentially a 1000 dead, without loss of terrorist lives. Oh well...
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Aug-31-2005 18:41
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Registered: Nov 2003
Location: Texas
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napolean, hitler, stalin, saddam, kim ill sung, milosevic, hedeki tojo.
all these secular rulers. they have killed more people than any other religion. note, the supreme court regards atheism as a religion. religion is just another word for, "lifestyle". if you get the logic, we all have a religion. mind you, it doesnt have to be anything organized or involve diety worship. just your lifestyle.
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Sep-01-2005 00:50
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DrUg_Tit0
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Registered: Nov 2002
Location: Zagreb, Croatia
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| quote: | Originally posted by ::TranceVanDyk::
napoleon, hitler, stalin, saddam, kim ill sung, milosevic, hedeki tojo. |
Yes, well, don't get me started with the list of religious rulers who started wars.
| quote: | | all these secular rulers. they have killed more people than any other religion. note, the supreme court regards atheism as a religion. religion is just another word for, "lifestyle". if you get the logic, we all have a religion. mind you, it doesnt have to be anything organized or involve diety worship. just your lifestyle. |
No, religion is not a synonyme for lifestyle, it does by definition have to involve a deity.
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Sep-06-2005 13:28
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DJ Sarah H
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Registered: Nov 2000
Location: London UK Baby
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| quote: | Originally posted by ::TranceVanDyk::
napolean, hitler, stalin, saddam, kim ill sung, milosevic, hedeki tojo.
all these secular rulers. they have killed more people than any other religion. note, the supreme court regards atheism as a religion. religion is just another word for, "lifestyle". if you get the logic, we all have a religion. mind you, it doesnt have to be anything organized or involve diety worship. just your lifestyle. |
and i think you will find that those dictactors used a religious angle in thier killings, Hitler murdered the jews for example so those deaths were brought about by thier religious beliefs because hitler did not like that religion.
Fact is that religion is the single biggest killer throughout history and has also been the biggest cause of pain, suffering and misery.
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Sep-09-2005 08:54
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DJ Sarah H
Louboutin's Bitch

Registered: Nov 2000
Location: London UK Baby
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| quote: | Originally posted by Yoepus
Actually I thought disease, famine, and starvation were the biggest killers, causers of pain, misery, and suffering. And those are all non-man made too... |
not really, ever since man walked the earth and had different beliefs from another man and started to have gods, it was then one mans god against another and then the killing ensued.
like the holy wars and crusades of the middle ages to the terrorist actions of today, all brought about by religion, ppl suffer needlessly because thier religion demand it, take jevoh witnesses for example, not allowd to have life saving blood transfusions because it is wrong of thier religion, the amount of roman catholics that had to suffer because of unwanted childbirth because thier religion says they can not use protection, roman catholic women who have been raped, not allowd to abort thier pregnencys because thier religion forbids it, how women suffer in the middle east because thier religions say the male is superior and is allowd to do basicly what he wants, how women and men are killed in iran because they are gay or lesbian, all against thier religions.
Asian indian religions where women are forced into arranged marriages etc etc.
the disease and famine you talk about is also caused partly by religion, in some 3rd world cultures you are considered rich if you have a large family, so you have all those mouths to feed and are unable to because of a religion, Polpot (sp) killed thousands in cambodia because of religion.
even world war 1 has underlying tones of religion that caused thousands of deaths, 9/11 and 7/7 in the UK, the gazza strip, the constant battles that rage there, all down to religion.
With the exception of natural disasters, i am sure you could find religious overtones to every war between the ppl of the planet earth.
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