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Sound O fTrance
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SRM450 XLR input .. work for pcv-275?

Hey guy's quick questions... I have a Vestax PCV-275.. and I was wondering if I could hook up SRM450's to my mixer?

My mixer doesnt have XLR inputs that are required since the SRM450's are XLR... but can I buy a cheap amp that has XLR inputs.. and just route my mixer to the amp..then to the speakers and have no reduction in quality? Or is there any sort of adapter?

Any other speaker reccomendations with great quality respects would be appreciated!

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tvmann
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You could get another mixer or get an RCA to XLR adapter that plugs into the XLR jack on the speakers. Then you just run a normal RCA cable from your mixer RCA jack to this adapter plugged into your Mackie speaker.

http://www.hosatech.com/hosa/products/adaptors.html

Possibly this GXM-133 is the one you want,
http://www.hosatech.com/hosa/products/GXM-133.html
RCA(female) to XLR(male) adapter. But check it out before you buy (I'm assuming the speaker has a female XLR jack as indicated in the Makie image), the adapters are about US$10 each.

If your RCA cable is not too long it will probably be OK and not pick up any hum or noise. The levels are supposed to be a little higher on the XLR (compared to line-level on a RCA cable) but it should work.



Last edited by tvmann on Sep-14-2005 at 01:39

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Sound O fTrance
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awsome thanks for teh info tvmann,

How bout if I use the 1/4 inputs on my mixer to conver them to XLR?

Would it make any difference in quality as opposed to using RCA to XLR?

& would I be sacrificing a significant loss in quality that I should suggest getting a new mixer? Or should it be ok?


here is the back of my mixer..

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CosmoKid
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Originally posted by Sound O fTrance
awsome thanks for teh info tvmann,

How bout if I use the 1/4 inputs on my mixer to conver them to XLR?

Would it make any difference in quality as opposed to using RCA to XLR?

& would I be sacrificing a significant loss in quality that I should suggest getting a new mixer? Or should it be ok?


here is the back of my mixer..



arent the top master outs on that mixer XLR? maybe i am understanding you wrong? i have a 275 with Rockit 8 Monitors and I have them connected via XLR.


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abnorm
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What's all this talk about? All he needs is XLR Female to 1/4" Male cables. That's pretty standard.


http://www.hosatech.com/hosa/products/STX-100F.html

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jdat
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What's all this talk about? All he needs is XLR Female to 1/4" Male cables. That's pretty standard.


http://www.hosatech.com/hosa/products/STX-100F.html



btw he'll needs a male xlr cause it's an input on the monitor

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tvmann
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Oh I see now, you guys are right, I was under the impression the mixer only had RCA outputs. It does indeed have XLR outputs in the 1/4" style. So all SoundOfTrance needs is a pair of 1/4" TRS male to XLR male cables.

The XLR signal jacks use different connectors depending on the equipment. A 1/4" TRS (tip-ring-sleeve) "phone jack", or the 3 pin connector commonly known as XLR (also used for microphone signals which are much lower level than XLR).

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jdat
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quote:
Originally posted by tvmann
Oh I see now, you guys are right, I was under the impression the mixer only had RCA outputs. It does indeed have XLR outputs in the 1/4" style. So all SoundOfTrance needs is a pair of 1/4" TRS male to XLR male cables.

The XLR signal jacks use different connectors depending on the equipment. A 1/4" TRS (tip-ring-sleeve) "phone jack", or the 3 pin connector commonly known as XLR (also used for microphone signals which are much lower level than XLR).



First off

a 1/4" is also referred to as a jack and NOT XLR like you seem to say.

Secondly
1/4" TRS have two uses, Phone jack output ( left right ) and symetrical. I seriously doubt the output on this mixer in question is symetrical hence no need to get a TRS cable.

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Vero
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j dat is correct, the 1/4" outputs on the pcv275 are unbalanced 1/4' TS. all you need is 1/4" TS male to XLR male. DO NOT ROUTE ANYTHING THROUGH AN AMPLIFIER. this is just plain STUPID. the SRM450 is a POWERED sound reinforcement monitor, putting an amp in before the SRM will fry your inputs.

these cables are cheap and simple, no extra harware requred. just stroll into a sam ash or quitar center, or anyplace that sells pro audio gear and say:

"Hi, my name is _________________, i need a pair of shielded 1/4" TS male to XLR male cables that are _______ long." got it? cool.

*edit* for the record:

1/4" jacks can be 2 types, balanced or unbalanced also refered to as TRS (tip, ring, sleeve) or TS (tip, sleeve) respectively. TRS are not allways stereo connecetions. a balanced TRS jack can be mono, this happens in high end equip where the output broadcasts the mono audio signal over all three connnections (the tip, ring and sleeeve) it uses the sleeve as a gound connection, the tip as the "positive" and the ring as "negative" which is put in reverse phase.

a balanced TRS has the lowest chance for interference because when the signal is recieved, the "positive" and "negative" cancel each other out, and what is left over is noise or interference which the input device can then filter out.

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