The Mackie's you're proposing will be fine for 50 to 200 people at the most indoors and out.

Obviously there will be a lack in bass as would be with almost any speakers like that.

If your concern is to try and get pumping bass out of active speakers just forget about it.

You could try and shop around to get something that kicks butt a little more but you'll barely gonna get any better unless you add a subwoofer.

A sub also implies an increase in budget.


But for your needs really don't sweat it they'll be fine.

Hmm sounds good... do you think a Sub would be an overkill? Since they are 'monitors' im guessing they lack low-end.... would a sub be a nice compliment?... or are high-end subs really that out of the price range..

B-52 matrix 1000 works well for this amount of people.. plus you get a sub that POUNDS... And the other speakers are suprisingly loud for 10"

and it's inexpensive.

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Is the B-52 you are talking about in regards to comparing it with the SRM450's?? Or you've just heard the B-52 and it kicks ass?? Does it really have clear mid's/high's and "pounding crisp bass"?

Not comparing it to the SRM's... just letting you know of another option. It really does sound good... I've had one for about 2 years now. I use it in my house on a daily basis. It has been to probably 10-15 parties and is still running strong. I know for a fact that it sounds better than JBL powered speakers.

There I have to keep it barely turned up.

In a party environment....
Used as a monitor for 3 parties with over 300 people. (Main system was 2 subs & 4 speakers) The 15" sub put out as much bass as the 18" that were used for the main system. And helped give the system the extra kick it needed.

Used as main system on the terrace at a local lounge. @ 1/2 volume. For about 25-50 people.

Used @ outdoor parties @ my friends house in the middle of nowhere w/ around 100 people. Only speakers used. Even outdoors the bass is still really good.

I don't think I've ever turned the amp on it up more than half way for the mids/highs, sub up to about 3/4 of full volume. It will run easily for 12 hours at this level.

Obviously if the room is too big, you're gonna lose some bass. If you can go to guitar center and check them out. If you want to spend a little extra get the upgraded version with the bigger speakers (I think it's the 2000)
But you can get a whole matrix sytem with wires and stands for about $800 or so.

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I use srm450s on a weekly basis and aside from the lack of bass they really sound transparent and clear. They're easy to use and setup, i never have ground loop issues, they are considerably heavier than standard 15" 2ways, but not too heavy to lift, I find it easy to put it close to a corner or wall to help increase the bass to satisfactory amount in most cases. So i like them and highly recommend them. However, I've only heard/used the matrix 1000 once and overall i was impressed by the whole package. I also have a friend that does mobile dj work and he has 2 matrix1000 setups and he really can't stop bragging about how great the packages are. Also, i believe they revised the matrix1000 lately to make it better in some way.

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the mackies are a good purchase because they are one of the only injection moulded cabs to sound anywhere near nice. at £1000 they are truely a steal! but bass will be lacking when playing dance music to more than fifty. however you could buy a single mackie 18 or 15" powered sub. these are pretty good for the money!

but..

i would suggest buying a sub/top system from ebay. look at home made boxes with good drivers in them... you ll know when you find a good one. it ll look like its commercially made. but will be much cheaper and probably better.

drivers like precision devices, ev,rcf. stear clear of jbl at all costs. these drivers are damn loud but are far too vicious sounding for small parties of under 100! also make sure you know its made of plywood and not mdf!

pick up a qsc amp of around 600wattsperchannel(rms) and youll be flying. just do your research and you will find a winning system for under a thousand...

or....

check this:_

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/HK-Audio-Line...1QQcmdZViewItem

it ll probably go for more than a thousand. but this is top gear indeed.

there is loads of cheaper stuff similar to this that comes up.

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Last edited by richg101 on Sep-15-2005 at 16:36

i havnt heard the mackies but i own a pair of JBL JRX-100 or 115..smthng like that .....and all i can say is the JBL is really really good....the sound is so crisp and clear and the bass is just rite...it has 1000 watts....and with the xone 62 its even better..so alot of it does depend on what mixer u hav...but if u got an allen & heath...the JBLs r the way to go!

you really thinks a Mixer is that big of a factor to effect the sound quality.. from a vestax to A&H?

generally a good pa rig is the deciding factor between good and bad sound. a mixer will improve sound but you ll only notice a difference between mixers in very large systems. you would notice between a kam mixer and allen and heath but there aint gonna be much difference between a a+h and a high end vestax.

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