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TVG
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Cubase FX question

I have 3 synth layers each with a send to a reverb fx channel. What I want to do is create one filter that affects all of the layers. If I make a group with a filter on it and send them all to it, it doesn't filter the reverb. Does anyone know what to do?

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groundzero74
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that's because you are using SEND effects, they are SENT to another channel , an "FX channel" , you could try to route this FX channel to the group your gonna filter, that should do the job.


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TVG
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Yeah I thought of that but for some reason the FX channels don't have the group channels as an output option

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Send effects are "wet only" - they are only capable of adding sound on top of another sound, not changing the sound that's there, so they're useless for filters. In Cubase, send effects can also only be routed to a master bus.

What you have to do is route the 3 tracks to a group track, and run your send out from the group instead of the individual channels.

If your send levels are different for each track, then it's considerably more difficult, but one way to do it is to use group tracks instead of fx tracks. Create a group track, put your reverb plugin on it and send to the group (you *can* do this). Then create another group, and route all the individual channels AND the reverb channel to it.

Another way of doing it, if your sound card supports it, is to use ASIO direct monitoring. For example on my Emu 1010, I can create a special output bus just for reverb, mute the physical output and patch it to a secondary ASIO input, then route that input to the filter group. This is actually a much cleaner way of doing it, but unfortunately doesn't work with the offline Render in cubase, since it's hardware based - you have to record it in realtime.


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TVG
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Thanks a lot man! I did not think of routing to a group channel instead.

I have one more problem. My group channel with the reverb on it doesnt have the option to output to any of the other group channels. It's weird, each group I have has less groups to output too.

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TVG
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Nevermind I got it. Turns out the groups have to be in order and you can't change the order without recreating the groups. Man that is lame

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DigiNut
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Nevermind I got it. Turns out the groups have to be in order and you can't change the order without recreating the groups. Man that is lame

Yeah, it's very lame, a lot of users were pissed that they didn't fix that in version 3. I can't see any logical reason for that limitation, but a lot of things in Cubase aren't very logical...


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