Why not just give EVERYONE who pays a heating bill a discount on their heating bill instead?

I cant wait to see how many dead people and inmates get a cheque this time around. And most low income people dont pay their heating bills. Usually thats included in rent. And people on welfare usually get it paid through their subsidized housing.

What a lame attempt at vote buying.

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OTTAWA (Reuters) - The Canadian government plans to present a C$2.3 billion energy relief package to Parliament within days as well as a bill that would earmark how budget surpluses are used, two senior government sources said on Wednesday. ADVERTISEMENT The energy package would include home-heating fuel rebates for low-income families, the creation of a gasoline-price watchdog agency, and incentives for home renovations that maximize energy conservation, the sources said. Press officers for Finance Minister Ralph Goodale and officials in his department were not immediately available for comment. A separate bill will also be presented to lawmakers spelling out a formula under which fiscal surpluses exceeding C$3 billion would be allocated to debt paydown, public health care spending and tax cuts, the sources said

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I hate politics with a firey passion.

can you do me a favor and name 1 thing that the goverment has done that you think is good?

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This is a disaster in the making. The only true way to do this is to have a saving on all gas bills. To say low income people are going to get a discount...which will come in the form of some sort of cheque is crazy. How many low income individuals live in apartments and don't pay for heat. They better have a good procedure in place to determine who does and does not deserve this break.

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Wow...you just know this is going to be a major fuckup...

And...

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...[T]he creation of a gasoline-price watchdog agency...

What a bunch of hypocrites!

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To get a cheque, don't you have to be the person on the utility bill in the first place? If not, how do they even figure out if that person even pays rent, let alone for their heat?

instead of rebates, how about incentives to conserve energy? Don't rebates just discourage people from caring?

lame.

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Originally posted by MarkT To get a cheque, don't you have to be the person on the utility bill in the first place? If not, how do they even figure out if that person even pays rent, let alone for their heat? instead of rebates, how about incentives to conserve energy? Don't rebates just discourage people from caring? lame.

First of all you have to confirm which families are low income families. Then you will have to confirm they actually pay for heat.

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Originally posted by ChemEnhanced First of all you have to confirm which families are low income families. Then you will have to confirm they actually pay for heat.

Sounds like another costly make-work project for the admin department to me. This is destined for disaster.

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Originally posted by angelgirl Sounds like another costly make-work project for the admin department to me. This is destined for disaster.

Oh I agree 100%. The amount of money it is going to cost to give a few people a rebate is crazy....and don't think the government is going to pay this out of their own pockets. I would be happy if the government just gave us all a reduction upto a max of $400.00 depending on the income status for the residence. This would be easy to do considering they can get this information from the tax returns. Depending on which category you family residence falls under will determine the amount of reduction you get. In order to qualify for the rebate you would need to show proof of a heating bill with your current address on it and proof of id.

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i don't get this idea...

why not spend that 1.5B on the aging metros in Toronto and Montréal?
or more commuter trains? give a tax break if you use mass transit...

damn thats a stupid bill.

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Originally posted by malek i don't get this idea... why not spend that 1.5B on the aging metros in Toronto and Montréal? or more commuter trains? give a tax break if you use mass transit... damn thats a stupid bill.

The problem is you will not get that many more commuters to make it worth while. People who are going to drive cars are going to drive cars. This is more for our house heating costs which will probably close to double this winter.

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Originally posted by malek i don't get this idea... why not spend that 1.5B on the aging metros in Toronto and Montréal? or more commuter trains? give a tax break if you use mass transit... damn thats a stupid bill.

because that wouldnt buy votes...

obviously you dont think like a liberal politician

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Originally posted by jester Everything in this country is illegal.

"Socialism is a philosophy of failure, the creed of ignorance, and the gospel of envy, its inherent virtue is the equal sharing of misery…" Winston Churchill

‎"If you have ten thousand regulations you destroy all respect for the law" - Winston Churchill