I have a problem. These days im trying to recreate synths used by pros, just for fun, just to improve my synthesis skills. I can do huge saw leads and pads, plucks, and so on... but those PWM Leads(Jurgen Vries - The Theme and Johan Gielen pres Abnea - Velvet Moods) i just cant get my head around. I made one that sounded "okey" with V-Station, but still thin and lifeless, so I used external effects but still just "thin". I know they use hardware and all that, but shouldnt it be possible to make pwm`s with software thats useable for production? I mean powerfull and fat pwm`s?
Any ideas on how to do this, besides layering them?

Thanks

Reaktor 5 and then the infection synth you can load into it, best supersaws ive heard out of a softsynth

And I can make fat pwm`s with it?

Hey. The pulse wave is not ever really supposed to sound really thick. Sure, you can make a supersquare or something of the sort but it defeats the purpose of pulse width modulation. PWM does, in a literal sense, make the sound thinner because to get harmonics, you have to have a variation between say +2000Hz and -2000Hz (peaks and pits). Pulse width modulation shortens either the peaks or the pits and does give it a thinner sound but personally, I love the sound, especially in tracks like Sasha - Xpander. About the only way to make a pulse wave thick after PWM has been applied to it is either turn down the PWM or if the synth you are using allows PWM on more than one oscillator, you can detune those oscillators like mm, 10 or 15 cents to give it a fatter sound but it will sometime ruin the sound of a good PWM sound :P.

Cheers,
Zac

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Im running these synths: Vanguard, Albino 2, z3ta and V-Station. Wich of these would be the best one? The one i used was the V-Station.

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Originally posted by themohawk Im running these synths: Vanguard, Albino 2, z3ta and V-Station. Wich of these would be the best one? The one i used was the V-Station.

z3ta...

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nobody mentioned impOSCar! that synth has the meatiest PWM waves of any softie ive heard. the filter also sounds very very analogue. dont get put off by the interface. its quirky at first but once you get used to it then its generally ok although the behaviour of the LFO still confuses me and the sound dramatically changes when you transpose to a different octave. once you get the balancing act right you can get some really lush stuff out of it though. try out the demo.

Weird, I am better at anything PWM than the other stuff.

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Originally posted by Derivative nobody mentioned impOSCar! that synth has the meatiest PWM waves of any softie ive heard.

impOSCar is nice indeed! But mac only...

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Originally posted by Traiden impOSCar is nice indeed! But mac only...

no it isn't,it's available for both windows and mac

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Windows
Intel Pentium III 500MHz with 64MB RAM
Windows 98, 98SE, Me, 2000, and XP
VST 2.0 or RTAS compatible host application for plug-in operation

Macintosh
PowerMac G4 with 64MB RAM
OS X VST 2.0, RTAS, or Audio Unit compatible host application for plug-in operation

What exactly is a PWM lead? I'm guessing its pulse wave with frequency modulation, which I'm sort of familiar with, but is there any particular way to program these?

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it's not frequency modulation, it's pulse width modulation.

but i don't see what is asked here.. PWM can sound so different.

please post a sample..