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made-event
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Registered: Jun 2004
Location: NYC / the dancefloor
Official Statement Re: PvD @ The Roxy 11/11/05

Made Event would like to sincerely apologize for the inconvenience and disappointment caused. We did not sell more tickets nor have any more patrons in the venue than we've had at our previous PvD shows at the Roxy. Other shows, in fact where the Fire Department came and did not see a potential problem. If you notice on some of the message boards or on the review at Groovanauts.com, there are reports from people who attended stating that there was dancing room and that it was not as crowded as other events, or as Paul's last event at Crobar. To set the record straight; the Fire Department gave us permission to begin letting people in again after a little time had passed. As we were about to begin doing so, for reasons unbeknownst to us, the police instructed us to clear the street and not to let anymore people in for the rest of the night even though we were clearly way below capacity at that point.

Unfortunately this situation was out of our hands, and selling as many tickets as we normally do, we did not anticipate this problem. Again, our sincerest apologies. We acknowledge that the price of the refunded ticket does not take care of the disappointment, especially for people that traveled from afar. Needless to say this situation is completely unacceptable to us and we will be looking at ways to ensure that this never happens in the future.

Kind Regards,
Made

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jurel
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Registered: Jan 2004
Location: right hurr

for the people who travelled and got denied, that was fucked up and it sucks for them, i'd be majorly pissed..

on the other hand, why do you sell so many tickets to a point where noone can move? Roxy's ventilation problem (even though it wasn't so packed) seemed like it actually needed the fire department to bust in and hose down everyone cuz it was sooo hot. :P

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BiG MiKE
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Registered: Feb 2004
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quote:
Originally posted by jurel
for the people who travelled and got denied, that was fucked up and it sucks for them, i'd be majorly pissed..

on the other hand, why do you sell so many tickets to a point where noone can move? Roxy's ventilation problem (even though it wasn't so packed) seemed like it actually needed the fire department to bust in and hose down everyone cuz it was sooo hot. :P


Exactly. I had one of those PvD mini posters and i was waiving it over my head. Felt like there was a cool breeze a few feet above us. Damn, real hot


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most of the nite the fans weren t on cheap ploy to get us patrons at the bar


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pvd420
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Registered: Apr 2003
Location: NJ

quote:
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most of the nite the fans weren t on cheap ploy to get us patrons at the bar


yeah that is crap the fan along the back wall near where the entrance is was off for a lot of the night and when it was turned on i was told it was only because a bunch of girls looked like they were going to pass out and the bouncers finally gave in and plugged it in and turned it on.

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sykadelik
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Registered: Mar 2002
Location: Bristol

I'm glad Mike suggested we should arrive early, otherwise I'd have been a bit annoyed having travelled from England and not been allowed entry.

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CivicRydr
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Registered: Apr 2001
Location: San Francisco

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I'm glad Mike suggested we should arrive early, otherwise I'd have been a bit annoyed having travelled from England and not been allowed entry.


Hehe. Once you get denied from a PvD gig, you learn a lesson fast. GET THERE EARLY.

One time, my friends and I had to pay a bouncer $20 a head to be let in, in front of everyone else. It was raining, cold, and the line was around the block. At the momment twenty bucks was a steal, but I really don't want to have to do that ever again.


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neon
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Registered: Feb 2004
Location: New York City
Re: Official Statement Re: PvD @ The Roxy 11/11/05

quote:
Originally posted by made-event
Made Event would like to sincerely apologize for the inconvenience and disappointment caused. We did not sell more tickets nor have any more patrons in the venue than we've had at our previous PvD shows at the Roxy. Other shows, in fact where the Fire Department came and did not see a potential problem. If you notice on some of the message boards or on the review at Groovanauts.com, there are reports from people who attended stating that there was dancing room and that it was not as crowded as other events, or as Paul's last event at Crobar. To set the record straight; the Fire Department gave us permission to begin letting people in again after a little time had passed. As we were about to begin doing so, for reasons unbeknownst to us, the police instructed us to clear the street and not to let anymore people in for the rest of the night even though we were clearly way below capacity at that point.

Unfortunately this situation was out of our hands, and selling as many tickets as we normally do, we did not anticipate this problem. Again, our sincerest apologies. We acknowledge that the price of the refunded ticket does not take care of the disappointment, especially for people that traveled from afar. Needless to say this situation is completely unacceptable to us and we will be looking at ways to ensure that this never happens in the future.

Kind Regards,
Made


My reponse to this is, per the statement by Made Events, NYPD is objectified as the "bad boy", - "unbeknownst" to Made Events why NYPD was failing to let people in. If a gullable being read this, it might sound like, "fine, fine, whatever." "Nothing we can do about that, I guess."

I, (personal opintion) do not know if I can really agree with this. If that was the case, why did the representatives of Made at The Roxy not fight against this "unknown reason" that NYPD was not letting people in? Clearly FDNY had authorized the staff of The Roxy to allow people to enter the premises. On what grounds, - on what charge were people not allowed into the club? If the amount of occupants had not exceeded what was stated in the maximum occupant agreement or whatever alias name it has, then clearly people are allowed to enter the premises UNITL that limit is on or about that FIGURE issued by the Property Clerk.

If Made Events and/or the Staff of The Roxy were not authorized to allow people to enter the premises on an "unbeknownest", that is an unacceptable reason and it is more than qualified to be challenged on-site, and possibly in court with the right representation.

Personally, this sounds more of discrimination against club-goers and the staff of a club, more than a legally just reason to dismantle an innocent club-goers intention of enjoying a night out in New York City to hear a superstar disc jockey play musical tunes.

- I am not holding a grudge that I was not allowed in, what I am holding is a dissatisfied view of how the situation was handled; - very unproffesional

I propose:

Party 1: The Roxy Nightclub
Party 2: Made Events

vs.

NYPD aka New York Police Department


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