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Trazedict
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Registered: Feb 2003
Location: chicago
David West

uhmm.. is it just me or is this guy really recycled...

David West (feat. Andreas Hermansson) - Larry Mountains 54
Inkfish vs. Martin H - Eye Am (David West Mix)
Dominic Plaza - Sounds Rushing (David West Mix)

same fuckin songs with a different melody!
goddamnit. how does he get away with this?


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Old Post Dec-20-2005 14:51  United States
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webbie
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Registered: Apr 2001
Location: Sweden

He was the second (arrogant) part of Antiloop, so he isn't really trademarked with quality.
Altho its always funny when people find out how some artists "cheat", i really enjoy that kind of reading.


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miamitranceman
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Registered: Nov 2004
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It's his sound, so what? Tilt - New Day (David West Remix) is great!


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DJ Charlie
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they look similar but somewhat different

but i don't give a **** .. the tracks rock!!

Old Post Dec-20-2005 17:48  Lebanon
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Col
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Registered: Jul 2004
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I like 'Larry Mountains 54' a lot. Reminds me of driving home at 1am with Andi Durrant playing on Galaxy...

But yeah, I haven't heard those others. If they are so similar then that's kind of cheap; it's annoying when producers use templates for different productions.


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allcentury18
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the guy is a genius, recycled, yeah right. he is beyond talented and his production techniques are flawless


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humilis
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Registered: Apr 2005
Location: Helsinki
Re: David West

quote:
Originally posted by Trazedict

same fuckin songs with a different melody!
goddamnit. how does he get away with this?


+1

And Sounds Rushing is the only good track of those 3

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breakaholic
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Registered: Jun 2001
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I think very opposite. Those all are awesome tunes. I don't care if he uses same methods, the results are brilliant and Sounds Rushing is definitely the tune of the year for me. David West - the best producer this year IMO.


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I understand this debate, since sometimes I will admit to thinking some producers use too many of the same basslines or melodies in their songs, however I also realize that a lot of these producers like to have a "trademark" sound. This is what seperates them from other artists so they are identifiable as "this is so and so". I mean producers like to have their individuality, it's no different than bands who have a trademark sound and like to duplicate it, because that is what sells and what people like.

It may irritate some people, but if you think about, alot of the Beatles songs, especially their earlier work, pretty much followed the same formula until they started to experiment in the later 60s with some different sounds. The same can be said for a lot of artists and bands, especially those starting out. It takes time to get a matured sound, if the artists is still churning out the same stuff after say 10 or 15 years of producing music professionally, then thats cause for concern. How long has David West been at it? I dunno but I don't think he's been around for THAT long to really have established himself as a producer. I'm sure within the next 5 years if he is still around, his sound may change a bit, but still keep some of his trademarks. Same could be said for artists like Probspot. Both of whom I am a fan of (David West and Probspot) but like I said, I understand where some of you are coming from with this criticism. I'm just offering my opinion and analysis of it.

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allcentury18
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quote:
Originally posted by Spirit5
I understand this debate, since sometimes I will admit to thinking some producers use too many of the same basslines or melodies in their songs, however I also realize that a lot of these producers like to have a "trademark" sound. This is what seperates them from other artists so they are identifiable as "this is so and so". I mean producers like to have their individuality, it's no different than bands who have a trademark sound and like to duplicate it, because that is what sells and what people like.

It may irritate some people, but if you think about, alot of the Beatles songs, especially their earlier work, pretty much followed the same formula until they started to experiment in the later 60s with some different sounds. The same can be said for a lot of artists and bands, especially those starting out. It takes time to get a matured sound, if the artists is still churning out the same stuff after say 10 or 15 years of producing music professionally, then thats cause for concern. How long has David West been at it? I dunno but I don't think he's been around for THAT long to really have established himself as a producer. I'm sure within the next 5 years if he is still around, his sound may change a bit, but still keep some of his trademarks. Same could be said for artists like Probspot. Both of whom I am a fan of (David West and Probspot) but like I said, I understand where some of you are coming from with this criticism. I'm just offering my opinion and analysis of it.


it's valid. my minor at uni was music theory. almost all of the most successful artists to ever live have a trademark sound that is INSTANTLY recognizable. it's what made them famous

saying, miles davis sounds the same skat singing on every track is absurd...

saying bill evans sounds the same on the piano is absurd... further more, saying bill evans pieces all sound the same is even more absurd, yet he used the same instruments for 4 albums and used 3 out of 5 same players.


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schprox
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To me, West is a SIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIICK producer.

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Trazedict
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Location: chicago

Ok, well the basis of my statement came after I played Sounds Rushing over and over (because it truly was a beautiful tune); then I heard he came out with Larry Mountains, and I said "By God, I gotta get my hands on this!" And when I listened to it, I thought, "By god, this sounds just like Sounds Rushing! Recycled! "

And I cried.


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Old Post Dec-20-2005 21:27  United States
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