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heelsy
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cubase question

if you have a few midi chanels with instruments on can u open an audio track underneith hit record and record the midi 2 audio or do u have to export the midi as audio then import it back in

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IDarkISwordI
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Hey. That should work if your soundcard is able to record MIDI. I know its possible on the soundblaster cards and should be on other much better cards. You should only need to set where you are to record from and it should work .

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It sounds to me like there's some confusion here between the MIDI data and the actual VST instrument.

DarkSword, if you've used Cubase then remember that MIDI tracks are layed out the same way as audio tracks, so people who are new to producing (or at least new to Cubase) often seem to infer incorrectly that the MIDI tracks are anything but "instructions".

heelsy: Either way, you're not going to "export the MIDI as audio" and re-import it. It's the output of the VST track you're going to be exporting, not the MIDI. There is no direct conversion between MIDI and audio.

Having said that, I do believe I understand what you're trying to do, and it's something I do quite often in my production, but it requires the use of either a hardware mixer or a sound card with ASIO Direct Monitoring. In that case it's simply a matter of:
1) Create a second ASIO output and ASIO input strip (optional)
2) Create a second input bus and output bus in the VST connections in Cubase, and route them to the ASIO in and out you just created (optional)
3) Route the output of your instrument to the second output bus (optional)
4) Create an audio track and select its audio IN to be the second input bus (optional)
5) In the mixer or mixer app, patch the output of the ASIO OUT strip to the input of the ASIO IN strip
6) Highlight the audio track and begin recording.

The reason I list 1-4 as optional is that you don't necessarily need the second set of buses. You can always just patch the output of your primary ASIO OUT to the input of your primary ASIO in, it's just more convenient to use a secondary bus because otherwise you have to solo the instrument you're trying to record, so you don't get the entire mix in the recorded audio. If you use a secondary strip, you can play back the whole mix in real time while just recording the one channel you want.

Whether or not you understand all that, look up ASIO Direct Monitoring and see if your soundcard supports it. If it does, then read the manual on that topic and it should clarify any questions you might have. And if you have a hardware mixer, then you should already know how to do all this.


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heelsy
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ive created a new bus and routed the instruments to the new bus
but dont know how to route the stereo out bus 2 into an in bus

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ive created a new bus and routed the instruments to the new bus
but dont know how to route the stereo out bus 2 into an in bus

That is what you need ASIO Direct Monitoring for, and that's what you'll have to figure out on your own because how it's implemented is different depending on your hardware/software. If your sound card supports it, it'll be in the manual.


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