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gląs
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Registered: Mar 2004
Location: Wichita, USA
composition

Ive seen a lot of questions concerning this over the past week or so. I hope this helps...if it dont ..then you can yell at me.

Arrangement is one of the simplest things in production when you get to its root.

think of it in chunks.

1. intro. (Give it a time about. a shorter trance song will run a 1:30 minute intro usually.)

2. break (this is 30 seconds at the most when you start breaking the song down. and lead into the build up.

3. build up (all good trancers have em. but some are milked for all they are worth. usually made up of a big pad and some FX, then they will bring in their lead in some creative way. give this about 45 seconds to 1:30.

4. chorus. ( this is where it all comes together, lead bass pads drums. etc etc. 2 minutes maybe more is a good tiem allotment for this.

5. break (same as above)

6. anything.(you can go into a longer break and do another chorus or you can continue breaking down the song until its finished.

this is not law but its a great guide to go by.

intro--break--build--chorus--break-----chorus---end. 7 minutes est.

you can pm me if you have some more questions.

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Alekos
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Thank you mate!!!

What about House music?


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If you want to make ASOT tracks that sound like all the other 10,000 ASOT tracks then yes, this is the formula you should follow.

A minute and a half breakdown would just about have me tearing my hair out.


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djlogik
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Registered: Jun 2005
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This is fine if you want to be like the million other artists. Create your own arrangement and become independent


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thoughtlessjex
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Registered: May 2004
Location: Chapel Hill, North Carolina

Try this one.

1: Build up a whole shitload of elements slowly and drop some every so often to explore some elements in more detail. Never let the kick and bass stop playing except in the intro an outro. Play all elements at the same time before the track ends.

As long as you can keep each element distinct, this template can have some really cool effects.


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armanivespucci
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Ahh, form is so archaic. Electronic music should be post-modern. It's all about production quality, anyway...


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gląs
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Registered: Mar 2004
Location: Wichita, USA
Re: composition

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Originally posted by gląs
Ive seen a lot of questions concerning this over the past week or so. I hope this helps...if it dont ..then you can yell at me.

Arrangement is one of the simplest things in production when you get to its root.

think of it in chunks.

1. intro. (Give it a time about. a shorter trance song will run a 1:30 minute intro usually.)

2. break (this is 30 seconds at the most when you start breaking the song down. and lead into the build up.

3. build up (all good trancers have em. but some are milked for all they are worth. usually made up of a big pad and some FX, then they will bring in their lead in some creative way. give this about 45 seconds to 1:30.

4. chorus. ( this is where it all comes together, lead bass pads drums. etc etc. 2 minutes maybe more is a good tiem allotment for this.

5. break (same as above)

6. anything.(you can go into a longer break and do another chorus or you can continue breaking down the song until its finished.

this is not law but its a great guide to go by.

intro--break--build--chorus--break-----chorus---end. 7 minutes est.

you can pm me if you have some more questions. [/QUOTE]this is not law but its a great guide to go by.

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jojimbo1
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I have a hard time completing tracks. I always get bogged down in the arrangement.

I've found that a good way for me to avoid this, is to use a 'formula' for my arrangment like glas suggested. Then to mash it up and make lots of changes so thats it completely different. But I've found it to be quite a psychological boost to have a complete track instead of 8bars, even if it is quite basic.

Therefore I think that 'formulas' can be quite useful, as a means towards an end, especially for newbies.

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echosystm
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quote:
Originally posted by IKKI-ZUVK
Thank you mate!!!

What about House music?


Yeah, what about house?
And techno, and tech house plz =D

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thoughtlessjex
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Registered: May 2004
Location: Chapel Hill, North Carolina

Techno?

loop, effect, loop, effect, loop, effect, etc. ad nauseum.

Easy peasy, lemon squeezy.


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