im planning to buy one specifically for audio recording and production.

i never used mac before, but im sure its not hard at all. after looking at pc and mac, i noticed pc is cheaper but mac is more powerful (or at least thats what i was told).

unfortunately, my budget is not that high since im also saving to buy synths and other stuff. what do u recommend? im leaning toward mac now.

this is the mac im looking for, but i think i will add extra RAM

http://store.apple.com/1-800-MY-APP...tHQuoWnJ/4.?p=0

what are your suggestions? anyone uses this device?
thanks

Mac and PC are essentially even when it comes to audio editing. People will tell you otherwise, but it's simply not true. I've seen G5s running many instances of VSTs at the same performance as my Athlon 3700+. It's a matter of preference.

Armin Van Buuren uses Logic with a G5, Solarstone uses Cubase SX with a PC. It's like asking what sequencer to use- really it's up to you.

I'm comfortable with PCs, so I use my Athlon PC with 1.25 gigs of ram. It has been very stable and runs VSTs efficiently.

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u brought up something there. and i want to know which software is better overall

cubase vs pro tools

Pro Tools, I'm told, has very bad MIDI functionality. For electronic music producers, Pro Tools is not what you want. Pro Tools is for recording bands, orchestras, or live things in general. MIDI is best dealt with by Cubase, Logic, FL studio, etc. etc.

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I'm a fairly recent switcher from PC to Mac, I got the new 20" IMac G5, and so far I have loved and much preferred using the Mac, when it comes to hardware between PC and Mac, there about the same now, so it comes down to the OS, I personally had it with how unstable Winblows gets when I try and get it to do a few things at once, I find OSX to be very stable, only had it crash on very shady alpha apps.

You can tweak windows to get it abit more stable if you keep it organized and look after the OS then it should be fine, for the mac, get it out the box and your good to go, I'd recommend a Mac over a PC for this, just for the OS being easier to use, more stable, and having things just work.

As for comparisons between them, well as I said, they are probably about the same, the only comparisons I have had hands on is between my bros Powerbook G3 500mhz and my Desktop AMD K6-2 500mhz, the G3 blew the doors off my AMD, but thats a long time ago, I also have a Laptop with AMD 2200XP and all the other standard gear, running Reason on it and Reason on my Mac, my Mac blows the doors off of it aswell, but that AMD chip is 32bit and not as fast as the new CPUs, AMDs higher end CPUs are are very fast now and are 64bit, so I am sure that helps.

Now before my english gets any worse, I must goto bed.

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Originally posted by stefanoc u brought up something there. and i want to know which software is better overall cubase vs pro tools

Oh O... here we go again

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Originally posted by stefanoc u brought up something there. and i want to know which software is better overall cubase vs pro tools

Cubase and Pro Tools are designed for completely different user groups. The closest software to Cubase in terms of functionality is Logic, and neither is "better", it is simply a matter of preference.

Many people here could go over the pros and cons of each, and it has been done several times. However, if - like every other nub here - you're looking for one-word answers on which is the "best" software or the "best" soft synth or the "best" anything else, you're not going to get one. Asking the question on a forum does not constitute consumer research - you have to read about and look critically at both and see which one suits you better.

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Originally posted by DannyO I'm a fairly recent switcher from PC to Mac, I got the new 20" IMac G5, and so far I have loved and much preferred using the Mac, when it comes to hardware between PC and Mac, there about the same now, so it comes down to the OS, I personally had it with how unstable Winblows gets when I try and get it to do a few things at once, I find OSX to be very stable, only had it crash on very shady alpha apps. You can tweak windows to get it abit more stable if you keep it organized and look after the OS then it should be fine, for the mac, get it out the box and your good to go, I'd recommend a Mac over a PC for this, just for the OS being easier to use, more stable, and having things just work. As for comparisons between them, well as I said, they are probably about the same, the only comparisons I have had hands on is between my bros Powerbook G3 500mhz and my Desktop AMD K6-2 500mhz, the G3 blew the doors off my AMD, but thats a long time ago, I also have a Laptop with AMD 2200XP and all the other standard gear, running Reason on it and Reason on my Mac, my Mac blows the doors off of it aswell, but that AMD chip is 32bit and not as fast as the new CPUs, AMDs higher end CPUs are are very fast now and are 64bit, so I am sure that helps. Now before my english gets any worse, I must goto bed.

I must agree, it's the os. OS X is in my opinion a much more stable system than Windows XP. I've just made my switch from pc to mac and it's a difference. I have protools 7 & cubase 3 sx & both run more stable on the mac mainly because i think of the Stability of the os & the audio units platform for my plug-in's. Just make sure u have a ok amount of ram because even on a mac, low ram = low performance.

As for cubase & protools. It is all about preference. They are both great programs but cubase is more gear for the sequencing of midi situation & protools is more of a recording live situation. Just have to see what direction you are going with your music.

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i wouldn't say mac is even with pc.... and i wouldn't say logic is the same as cubase.


a mac g5, outperforms the fastest amd athlon 64 bit processors by a fairly noticeable amount.... especially when it comes to music, video, or any type of multimedia editing. there is a reason why nearly every professional studio uses macs as their main computers... and for those who think i'm pulling this outta my ass, i'm not cuz i'm studying audio engineering at nyu and have worked and met several industry professionals in all audio/music fields all around new york and they all agree on this point. however, for producing electronic music, at this point, you don't necessarily need all that processor power because the current athlon 64 bit engines are definitely as capable of running a heavily layered trance/edm track smoothly. you will definitely save a lot of money by purchasing a higher end amd processor instead. i currently am running an amd 3500+ and its been very smooth so far.

as for logic and cubase, i know what everyone always says, its by your preference and what you're used to using. all producers have their own platform they like to use because there are professional producers using fruity loops, cubase, reason, logic, etc. but going by strict technical aspects (not personal preference) logic 7 pretty much outperforms pretty much every other sequencing program. I could go on to explain, but honestly, just read through the logic 7 website and its specifications and you can understand why. and once again, i'm not just going by what i think is correct, i have actually spoken with so many music producers and audio engineers who rave about it nonstop. including one of my professors who is an original beta tester for logic (before it got that name even) and actually contributed to several aspects of the sequencer.

in the end though, if you are simply looking to produce electronic music, the most high end platform isnt' what u necessarily need. though personally, if i had the money, i would definitely hit up the mac with whichever preference of sequencer ur comfortable with.

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Originally posted by trancinchink a mac g5, outperforms the fastest amd athlon 64 bit processors by a fairly noticeable amount.... especially when it comes to music, video, or any type of multimedia editing.

No.

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there is a reason why nearly every professional studio uses macs as their main computers...

Yes, because they are artsy types and Macs are more "user-friendly" (which isn't even true anymore, but it's a commonly-held belief among those types).

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but going by strict technical aspects (not personal preference) logic 7 pretty much outperforms pretty much every other sequencing program.

Once again, no.

If you actually have any facts or benchmarks to support these assertions then by all means, present them. But simply going by the word of people you've met in university doesn't prove anything - where did THEY get THEIR facts from? Many self-proclaimed "industry professionals" are full of shit and just like to throw around buzzwords. And as for the professor who beta-tested Logic - what did you he was going to say, that the software sucks balls?

You're not even giving us second-hand facts, you're giving us second-hand opinions. Let's hear some evidence.

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