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Psy-T
Melody Klein



Registered: Jan 2003
Location: Haifa
ID Contest Discussion

i've compiled quite a lot of stats from all the id contests, but mostly those regarding success rates, and things are looking quite bad, so i opened this thread to see how we can improve on it.

hopefully the statistics fanatics (fundi & paranoiko) can find some major correlations between track selection and success rates...

in any case, discuss

here's the txt file: ID History


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Cobalt
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This is awesome! I was curious about this sort of thing myself, but hadn't compiled anything yet. Thanks!

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I'm too drunk to fathom htis

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sems like a great gdeal of szuperfluous shit

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Melody Klein



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quote:
Originally posted by AlphaStarred
sems like a great gdeal of szuperfluous shit


come back when you're sober alpha


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Subey
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Re: ID Contest Discussion

quote:
Originally posted by Psy-T
i've compiled quite a lot of stats from all the id contests, but mostly those regarding success rates, and things are looking quite bad, so i opened this thread to see how we can improve on it.


Thanks for doing all that work!

I don't think the average success rate is the best stat to look at. Some of us are really crappy at IDing so we pull the average down.

I think the better stat to look at is the average score of the 5th place person (i.e. someone who is decent but not the best) just to see. So I've calculated it over the last 11 rounds (using your data) and it works out to be 25% (the average of the 1st place finishers is 54%)

But is that a problem? I dunno, knowing 1 in 4 tracks from someone else's taste with only 15 seconds heard of each seems pretty good to me.

If it is, then simply asking the people who win to *boost* the mainstream trance content in their contest by X tracks should increase the average since that is the area of music ID that we all presumably share


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quote:
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That's some damn fine work sir! Well done on that!


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Melody Klein



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Re: Re: ID Contest Discussion

quote:
Originally posted by Subey
If it is, then simply asking the people who win to *boost* the mainstream trance content in their contest by X tracks should increase the average since that is the area of music ID that we all presumably share


in theory - not practice, have a look at the stats and you'll see we didnt have that much more luck with the contests that were majorly mainstream trance than we did with the ones who were of more esoteric subgenres.


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quote:
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Re: Re: Re: ID Contest Discussion

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in theory - not practice, have a look at the stats and you'll see we didnt have that much more luck with the contests that were majorly mainstream trance than we did with the ones who were of more esoteric subgenres.


Isn't 25% really amazing though? there's an amazing number of songs out there.


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The overwhelming conclusion that I drew from it was that I'm completely shite and have been throughout recorded history.

That said: the recent competitions have included more tracks, so the comparative percentage of a single point goes down. You'd expect people to get more right though...


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