i've been thinkin about this for the last couple years..

i've loved techno music ever since i was a little kid, i remember kids making fun of me in middle school because no one liked techno.. but as we got older more and more people started opening their minds and everyone around here knows me for my love for techno/trance.. now they all know me for having all the best techno and just the best music in general. but what im tryin to get at is that i want to take my love for trance to the next level, i actually want to start making my own trance music... everyone tells me i'd make and awesome artist they're all confident that i'd do well in this type of thing.. so what im here for is to know..

...WHAT DO I NEED TO DO TO START MYSELF OFF IN CREATING TRANCE MUSIC..

more specifically, what type of equipment do i need to actually MAKE this type of music.. or is this more like studio equipment, like the real expensive shit or can i actually purchase something to get me started, this isnt a joke.. and im really looking for help, SO HELP!


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buy a copy of fruityloops, and just do it.

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Originally posted by katona13 i've been thinkin about this for the last couple years.. i've loved techno music ever since i was a little kid, i remember kids making fun of me in middle school because no one liked techno.. but as we got older more and more people started opening their minds and everyone around here knows me for my love for techno/trance.. now they all know me for having all the best techno and just the best music in general. but what im tryin to get at is that i want to take my love for trance to the next level, i actually want to start making my own trance music... everyone tells me i'd make and awesome artist they're all confident that i'd do well in this type of thing.. so what im here for is to know.. ...WHAT DO I NEED TO DO TO START MYSELF OFF IN CREATING TRANCE MUSIC.. more specifically, what type of equipment do i need to actually MAKE this type of music.. or is this more like studio equipment, like the real expensive shit or can i actually purchase something to get me started, this isnt a joke.. and im really looking for help, SO HELP! --Nizzy

If you're still confusing trance and techno, you might want to consider getting more involved in the community before beginning any sort of production.

Oh, and read the stickies.

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There is alot to learn before you can just pick up a tool and jam out some music. You have to have a few skills, can you hear sounds and picture their waveforms in your head? Can you identify which synthesis techniques are good for making which sounds?

There are things that you need to learn that cannot be taught, products of trial and error. One thing I can suggest is to try and take a step back and look at the "big picture" of things, spend alot of time thinking about how your thoughts are organized in your head, try and think of specific things that you want to try.

The thing you want to avoid most is pictuing this machine as having infinite possibilities. You can imagine any sound you want but no person is capable of manifesting every single thing that they can imagine. There is a finite amount of memory in a computer, which means a finite number of possible states that the machine can be in. You have to build a tool set, take things one at a time, create some reusable constructs to save time. So you start with your sound generators, learn synthesis one step at a time, and try to restrict your imagination to things that you know you can feasibly implement. Gradually your expertise grows, gradually you can try new things, but don't think that right off the bat you can just make anything that you can think of, or else you will never get anything done!

There is more to this than understanding the interface of a piece of software, after you have a few synth techniques under your belt you probably want to understand how to do certain effects, how to do a certain melody or chord or something, nobody can tell you what exactly you need here because everybody does it differently. you have to think about what you are interested in.

The best thing I can suggest is be specific in your thoughts, know how to make the sound you are picturing in your head.

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Originally posted by Zombie0915 There is alot to learn before you can just pick up a tool and jam out some music. You have to have a few skills, can you hear sounds and picture their waveforms in your head? Can you identify which synthesis techniques are good for making which sounds? There are things that you need to learn that cannot be taught, products of trial and error. One thing I can suggest is to try and take a step back and look at the "big picture" of things, spend alot of time thinking about how your thoughts are organized in your head, try and think of specific things that you want to try. The thing you want to avoid most is pictuing this machine as having infinite possibilities. You can imagine any sound you want but no person is capable of manifesting every single thing that they can imagine. There is a finite amount of memory in a computer, which means a finite number of possible states that the machine can be in. You have to build a tool set, take things one at a time, create some reusable constructs to save time. So you start with your sound generators, learn synthesis one step at a time, and try to restrict your imagination to things that you know you can feasibly implement. Gradually your expertise grows, gradually you can try new things, but don't think that right off the bat you can just make anything that you can think of, or else you will never get anything done! There is more to this than understanding the interface of a piece of software, after you have a few synth techniques under your belt you probably want to understand how to do certain effects, how to do a certain melody or chord or something, nobody can tell you what exactly you need here because everybody does it differently. you have to think about what you are interested in. The best thing I can suggest is be specific in your thoughts, know how to make the sound you are picturing in your head.

very true, i know this... trust me, i've thought long and hard about this and i know what i want to do

the best way to learn something is hands-on experience.. i came here to see if theres others like me tryin to learn more, im not some 12yr old kid looking to make it big and get rich quick

i have a very strong passion for this type of music and i know what i want... im determined to make music because i know i can do good things here, so for those who think im some clueless kid... thats fine, i didnt come here to gain your respect, i came here to learn more.

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Originally posted by armanivespucci If you're still confusing trance and techno, you might want to consider getting more involved in the community before beginning any sort of production. Oh, and read the stickies.

haha, i havent confused the two... im very aware of the differances between to two generes... so PLEASE once again stop tellin me what i DO and what i DONT know because obviously you're wrong about me...

im hear to learn more not to be poked fun at, but if what makes you feel better then fine... just please make sure you put something useful in your comments rather then just a diss, thank you.

it seems kinda funny how you welcome new-comers to your forums.

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Buy a copy of FL Studio..fairly inexpensive. You could try the demo out at www.fruityloops.com to see what the program feels like. I suggest FL because it's very user friendly and it's not so difficult to learn. Get a couple of freeware VST synths such as Synth1 and the Superwave P8. Read some stuff on how to do various things such as mastering and blah and blah. Just don't expect to become Ferry Corsten overnight good luck and have fun.

If you need any help, ill be happy to show you some stuff with FruityLoops.

AIM: JustinM1205
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Or just P.M. me

I concur, FL Studio is your best bet, and the producers edition is only 150$. After that, check out some VST synths and effects. There are millions of them free online (Triangle 2, Synth 1 and Superwave P8 are my favs'). if you have technical questions, remember that google.com and en.wikipedia.org are your *bestest* friends in the world The sticky threads in this forum also contain a HUGE library of helpful stuff.

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Originally posted by JustinMead If you need any help, ill be happy to show you some stuff with FruityLoops. AIM: JustinM1205 MSN: [email protected] Email:[email protected] http://www.myspace.com/thejosenone Or just P.M. me

any and all the help i can get is much appriciated, i'll def. be hittin you up, thx man

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I think one of the most important things in produceing music is knowing how it should sound. If you are really "listening", I mean listening to all the elements of your music then you should have a good start. I think this is one of the key elemnts that most of us are missing out on. If you really know the music you love then it shouldn't be that hard to bang out a few tunes. You will have to learn lots of stuff, but that comes with time. I think for starters you should grab a few sample cds(try the vengence stuff) and that should help you bypass a lot of technical stuff you dont know how to do yet.

when you have questions ask here or do a search...there is pretty much everything you could want to know.

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