Hi,

What courses do you recomend in London or near, for production and audio engineering?

I'm looking for info about this.

SAE? Other?


Thanks for any opinions

Well i dont recommend SAE London at all.
and yes that is from experience

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Originally posted by Freak Well i dont recommend SAE London at all. and yes that is from experience

Bad experience?
I heard something about SAE is to $$..

But, i'm looking for a place that really add knowledge to me, considerating the amount of information on the internet

some links:

http://www.londonschoolofsound.co.uk/
http://www.s-s-r.com/dmp.asp
http://www.southend.ac.uk/courses/detail.asp?v=&c=1557 http://www.acm.ac.uk/music-production.htm http://www.recordwk.dircon.co.uk/dance.htm

ps: sorry for my possible bad english

Mauricio

Last edited by Mauricio on Feb-20-2006 at 22:15

I'd really have a good think of what it is you exacaly want to learn before even thinking of joining one of these. I had a freind who went to piontblank in london and while he did learn a lot I really don't think he learnt ANYTHING there that he couldn't of done by himself using online guides ect.

If you are thinking of working in a studio / sound engineer then mabey it's a good idea but if you want to crack on with trance dance ect then the tutorial master list' this forum and a very good book The dance music manual will teach you a lot. And lastly I think there's only so much in music you can be taught as a lot is just trial and error.

Good luck what ever you decide to do.

Become a music major.

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well the sae colleges in australia look alright to me!

are you able to elaborate on that for me be great if you could give me a tip saving a lifetime saving for the college.

thanks

mattz

just ask a friend to show ya.... they charge too much in these type of places. learn the basics from a mate. and then teach yourself the rest. you ll end up with your own sound then. instead of being taught how to be a generic producer...

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It really depends on what you are looking for. Are you wanting to achieve a job working in the audio industry? Then a course based on audio enineering will help. do you just want to make tunes as a hobby? No need to pay large amounts of cash that could better be used to buy studio gear. Just get yourself some books from amazon or somewhere like that.
SAE in Oz offers a music making course that shows you how to use reason and ableton live, but I have not done it so I don't know what it is like.
I am at SAE now doing the Engineering course, but that is because I was looking for a change in career after 10 years with Mobil. There are plenty of options after the course, but you still aren't guarenteed work.
If you just want to mess around, I'd not recomend the course untill maybe later when you want more info on how to polish your work.
Just about everything you learn in these courses can be sourced off the internet nowdays, you just need to know what to look for.

yeah im going to do the same thing as you scott, i really would like to be involved in audio/music technology for my life i would do anything if it meant working odd jobs etc. i know that they will say when you walk in on your first day they will say if anybody here wants to work in the audio industry in a stable fashion then nows the time to leave, i am aware of this and does not phase at all. just to be simple im very much on the same wavelength as you are!

i could probably teach my self the production side of things but the audio enginnering things needs more grounding. im doing the degree stage and i cant wait another 2 years to wait as im saving the money all up for it. then i wont owe anything for it and will be paid for.

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Originally posted by mzvirbulis yeah im going to do the same thing as you scott, i really would like to be involved in audio/music technology for my life i would do anything if it meant working odd jobs etc. i know that they will say when you walk in on your first day they will say if anybody here wants to work in the audio industry in a stable fashion then nows the time to leave, i am aware of this and does not phase at all. just to be simple im very much on the same wavelength as you are! i could probably teach my self the production side of things but the audio enginnering things needs more grounding. im doing the degree stage and i cant wait another 2 years to wait as im saving the money all up for it. then i wont owe anything for it and will be paid for.

Does that mean you have already done the diploma, and your saving for the next 2 yrs? Or your doing the first year now? I don't know what I'm going to do after I finish in Spet, ie look for work or move to Sydney and do the next 2 yrs - got rellies in Syd, but still need cash. My lecturer does a heap of live work, mainly aussie bands, like grinspoon etc, but he has done pulic enemy amongst others - that would be cool!
I am doing Womad festival work experince in March. Lots of world music with unconventional instruments. Should be interesting.
I'm more interested in studio work myself, but like you eluded to, gotta take what comes when it does.
If you get in with the right audio companies, you can get some good work. craig told us about a guy who started out here and is just about to wrap up the Lion King production. he was the engineer for that. Paid $600/week living away from home allowance when in Melbourne - on top of his wage of course. Good work if you can get it, but then it reverts to no work... gotta be prepared for that eh!

nah i havent started yet, as i say im not starting for another two years i got to save money for it. i want to finish the degree stage which i think takes three years full time all up from start to finish.

yeah alot of it is like on a contract for a period of time mostly short i would say but it depends (like lion king). i guess i will be smart enough to know i will have something to fall back on any way once a contract runs out etc.

but there are so many cool areas of audio you can look into, like gaming audio etc.
it doesnt fuss me if its live or studio, its all great. experience in all areas would be greatly benificial but being an audio engineer you would expect to know both anyways.

Now I got ya. You can get Austudy if your eligable - that's how I am doing it. I work 1 day a week and get Austudy. Because the course costs so much tho, Austudy doesn't cover it fully ($30/week short). I'd be happy working more, but it is not worth it as I would lose my allowance. As it is I lose $125 a workin 2 shifts a fortnight. If I work 6 Shifts per fort I would end up with about $50 more than what I get now. 4 days work = $50... hardly an incentive.
3 yrs to live like a porper isn't great, but the end result would be. You can also go on to get your masters (PhD) if you want to. I'd like that myself, would just make me feel better for droping out of uni all those years ago.