unfortunately there are just as many idiots that like trance as there are idiots that like hip hop...i don't think there is any correlation

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Originally posted by Floorfiller unfortunately there are just as many idiots that like trance as there are idiots that like hip hop...i don't think there is any correlation

Yeah, all you have to do is read this board for 5 minutes to figure that out.

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Originally posted by Floorfiller unfortunately there are just as many idiots that like trance as there are idiots that like hip hop...i don't think there is any correlation

On the whole though, I'm sure there's some truth to it. As I stated... your music choice is a relection of your personality, just like, say, the way you dress or talk or act.

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Originally posted by MindsDesire On the whole though, I'm sure there's some truth to it. As I stated... your music choice is a relection of your personality, just like, say, the way you dress or talk or act.

i think it's just something that people that like EDM like to tell themselves.

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Originally posted by MindsDesire On the whole though, I'm sure there's some truth to it. As I stated... your music choice is a relection of your personality, just like, say, the way you dress or talk or act.

Load of crap, if you think about it. How people dress/talk/act/do anything is reflective of the society they live in. Someone at a university may well dress and talk and listen to different music than the man on the street, but that's only because they spend most of their time exposed to these influences. That they're intelligent is only why they're at the university.

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This is a stupid theory, and surely it would only work if people only ever liked one genre of music anyway.

What about people that like trance AND rap?
What about trance and rock?
Or rock and rap?

I'm sure there's no correlation. I perhaps have more respect for someone who likes more underground music, as it shows they've put more effort in to discover it, but I don't think doing so makes them any more intelligent. Just less lazy, more open-minded, or more intrigued as to what music has to offer.

And I think we all know that some of the smartest people out there can also be the most narrow-minded, ignorant ****s you'd ever meet.

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I said this in one of my threads. Cutnpaste here (J, shut up...it saves me time, okay):

Dance music is dance music, okay. It is stupid, formulaic sample/loop-based music, and has never been anything but, and we love it for that stupid fact. It has never been anything but disposable, feather-lite pap. It is not complicated, it is not sophisticated, and it is not something deep and meaningful that requires a high intelligence to appreciate, so stop patting yourself on the back about how smart and intellectual you think you are.

Musical complexity, if you really want to argue that, is all about QUALITY, not QUANTITY. Dance music is not complex. If you want complex music, you would try for really odd or bizarre time signatures like 9/13 (Zappa was a master of this), and really avant-garde scales like Archytas' Enharmonic 8-tone scale or the 19-equal scale or Harry Partch's really fucked up 43-tone scale, which sounds practically atonal to the western ear trained to the standard 12-tone scale, and completely out of sync if you try to count the measures in multiples of 4.

Just because a form of music has more layered instrumentation or tons of little squiggling, arpeggiating melodies doesn't make it deep and complicated. Trance is not more highly evolved because it has busy harmonies. At the root level it is still 4/4 timed music, just like hip hop, and it is still loop and sample based, just like hip hop. That makes it the simplest and most dreadfully straightforward music in the world, no matter how many layers you stuff on the track. Which is all dance music ever has been. So please: knock it off with the chinstroking and back-patting.


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If you're referring to the standard 4/4 discussed here, then I will agree but there is dance music which pushes into the 6/8 and 3/4 realms, it's just not something you're going to find in a very prevalent fashion because of its avant-guarde tendency.

Then you have the existence of IDM-lovers (I enjoy lots of IDM), who might use similar argumentation to argue their music's superiority.

yeah yeah yeah, I know. I have some music in triplet timing. But that's just a small sliver of the edm spectrum as to be negligent.

And let's be realistic here: fucked up IDM or downtempo music set to bizzare time signatures isn't what the poster was getting at, was he?

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Originally posted by Ishkur Just because a form of music has more layered instrumentation or tons of little squiggling, arpeggiating melodies doesn't make it deep and complicated.

But likewise, just because a piece of music is in an unconventional time signature, doesn't necessarily make it deep or complicated either.

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I used to believe that a person's music was a reflection of their personality, and that people partially formed their idendity through the music that they chose.

But the more people I meet, and the more they share with me the music that they listen to, the more I realise that that assumption does not hold up. Music has nothing to do with who you are as a person, neither in your personality, identity, nor intelligence.

Al that stuff is cultural, based on your surroundings, which is only loosely connected with musical choice.