Registered: Aug 2002
Location: Toronto, ON, CANADA
Climate Change - CBS 60 Minutes [March 20 2006]
15 years ago when I was being taught in elementary-school about "green house gases" I thought it was alarmist left-wing environmentalists trying to scare the corporatists.
10 years ago in high school when scientists where screaming murder about "global warming", again I believed that the socialists were at work, trying to stifle big business, restrict trade for the good of organized labour.
I now believe that this environmental science is not the work of special interest groups manipulating information. Our environment is changing, something is at work here - and it is up to us to look into it, find it's cause and do something about it for the greater good of mankind. It may or may not be caused by man, but not acting to understand what is happening is no longer an acceptable solution
Tonight on the CBS television show 60 Minutes, they aired an episode about the
--------------------
On Sunday March 20, 2006 60 Minutes aired a report on how NASA's top climate scientist Jim Hansen says that the "the speed of the natural changes is now dwarfed by the changes that humans are making to the atmosphere and to the surface" and that "those human changes are driven by burning fossil fuels that pump out greenhouse gases like CO2, carbon dioxide." Hansen says his research shows that man has just 10 years to reduce greenhouse gases before global warming reaches what he calls a tipping point and becomes unstoppable.
I encourage you to read this article. Avoid the easy trap of making it a partisan "white house censorship" article. Understand what the article is really about - the environment and the danger that we face.
Look at the weather around us. The winter (or lack of) that we've had, the hot summers - something is up with our environment. If it is made made, we need to stop it right away. If it is not, then our efforts to live a cleaner, healthier life are still to our long term benef9it.
Dark Dirty Tech Tribal. | Hands in air (trance) and feet on the floor (house).
Mar-20-2006 06:32
VERTiG0
cunning linguist.
Registered: Dec 2003
Location: no longer Cambridge, Ontario, Canada
I can't wait to move to a planet made entirely out of beef, and colonize it.
Last edited by VERTiG0 on Mar-20-2006 at 06:50
Mar-20-2006 06:36
rabbitjoker
aural sadist
Registered: Aug 2002
Location: Toronto, ON, CANADA
Re: Climate Change - CBS 60 Minutes [March 20 2006]
quote:
Originally posted by rabbitjoker Avoid the easy trap of making it a partisan "white house censorship" article. Understand what the article is really about - the environment and the danger that we face.
Dark Dirty Tech Tribal. | Hands in air (trance) and feet on the floor (house).
Mar-20-2006 06:45
VERTiG0
cunning linguist.
Registered: Dec 2003
Location: no longer Cambridge, Ontario, Canada
In that case, I'm going to go ahead and say that we're screwed, 10 years isn't enough time to make the necessary changes to revert the snowball effect we've put into action.
Mar-20-2006 06:58
TheVrk
Mediterranean Canadian
Registered: Nov 2003
Location: Windsor, Canada
I watched this after a full day of college basketball and it's def a VERY serious issue.
And this whole White House censorship thing, altho not surprising, is REALLY fucked.
And its a FACT that the official report was censored meaning Congress
did NOT hear the facts.....
What gets me MOST is that the head of the environmental dept thingy who did all the censoring, resigned and now works for Exxon!
Trying to cover all this up makes me fuckin sick
Mar-20-2006 07:32
King Luis
The Almighty King of TA!!
Registered: Feb 2006
Location: Oakville
IMO, i think its just a cycle. i watched the news today and they said that this week will be 6 degrees colder then average. looking at the graphs and stuff on weather network and other various sites, nothing major has changed. i'm guessing we will get a very bad/cold and long winter soon that will make up for all this warm weather.
no i have not read the article (too long).
i think that there are too many people and corporations that don't give a rats ass about the environment because they are too concerned about being rich or w/e. if we do get a very bad and long winter, i'm buying a snowmobile.
___________________
Mar-20-2006 13:22
Wurm
In the moment.
Registered: Dec 2001
Location: Magic, if only for a while...
We get caught up in microcycles, because we can easily observe and comprehend them.
Climate change involves long-term trends that are not easily observed through personal experience.
Mar-20-2006 13:40
ShadoWolf
ISOS
Registered: Apr 2002
Location: State of Trance
quote:
Originally posted by Wurm
We get caught up in microcycles, because we can easily observe and comprehend them.
Climate change involves long-term trends that are not easily observed through personal experience.
Exactly. People should educate themselves about Milankovitch cycles and solar variation before making wild claims about "greenhouse gases."
___________________
Nathan Fake - Outhouse (Valentino Kanzyani Remix) || ID PLZ!PVD ID!!!
Disco and classical had sex while watching a sci-fi movie. Their child: trance.
Mar-20-2006 14:11
SPANIARD
Supreme tranceaddict
Registered: Jan 2004
Location: Toronto,Ontario
quote:
Originally posted by VERTiG0
I can't wait to move to a planet made entirely out of beef, and colonize it.
I Can't wait to move to a planet made entirely out of weed, and smoke it.
___________________
quote:
Originally posted by ChemEnhanced
any party from 2003 and back I only remember bits and pieces...i've combined those memories into one awesome party
Mar-20-2006 14:31
LKD
Omni-peasant
Registered: Aug 2001
Location: Its June 18th, 2005, I'm at the Skybar
Re: Climate Change - CBS 60 Minutes [March 20 2006]
quote:
Originally posted by rabbitjoker
On Sunday March 20,
Registered: Nov 2002
Location: Toronto, Ontario, Canada
The earth has a cycle, and we are part of it. The earth is constantly creating and destroying species. We are on our decline. The human race will parish someday, and the earth will replace us with a new dominant species.
Dinosaurs + meteors = humans
Humans + pollution + war + over population... = ?
Mar-20-2006 18:06
rabbitjoker
aural sadist
Registered: Aug 2002
Location: Toronto, ON, CANADA
quote:
Originally posted by Orko
Humans + pollution + war + over population... = ?
Nathan Fake - Outhouse (Valentino Kanzyani Remix) 
