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Dance123
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Hi,

I am looking for a specific feature, and was wondering if a groovebox like MC-909 or maybe a pattern-based VST instrument or effect plugin or something could let me do following:

Create a pattern (like you do in ReBirth for example) but then be able to transpose that pattern based on what note I play with a master keyboard. So, if I play C, the pattern plays normal, but if I play D, the pattern gets transposed up 1 note in realtime etc.. Can you assign a pattern to a certain "root key" and then make it so that the pattern transposes according to the keyboard note you play.

This would be really cool so you play around (transpose) with pattern-based basslines etc.. you made! I hope you know what I mean! So far I haven't found anything that can to that, except those auto-accompaniment keyboards. Nothing else that can do this?!

1/ Can anybody please explain if all of the above is possible with something like MC-909 and also please give step-by-step instruction on how to do this so I can take those instructions to the music store and try it out there!

2/ Aren't there any pattern-based VSTi's or VST effect tools or arpeggiators that allow you do what I just described above? Which ones and instructions on how to use them to do the above!

Thanks alot for all good info and instructions!!

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what you just described is a programmable arpeggiator, many vst synths have it, for example Arturia's ARP-2600V, and I believe Linplug's Albino 2 can do it as well. Z3ta can do it too, but I hate the arpeggiator in z3ta, you have to create a midi file of the sequence and then load it with z3ta (probably the synths only weakness)...

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Hi,

Arpeggiators like the one in Albino don't allow you to make real patterns like you could make in ReBirth. In Albino you have 32 steps but then you can only set a play mode like up or up/down etc.., so it's not like you can create a melodic pattern with pitches like in ReBirth.

Essentially I would like to make those Rebirth type patterns, but then be able to transpose them all over the keyboard logically based on which note you play. Which hardware (groovebox?) or software can do this?!

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make your pattern...save as wav...recycle it and use it in Dr. Rex in Reason...

that might work...no idea if it can be done any dif. way


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Hi,

In Albino you have 32 steps but then you can only set a play mode like up or up/down etc.., so it's not like you can create a melodic pattern with pitches like in ReBirth.



By Rebirth, you mean the TB-303, right?? You can do that in Albino.
trust me, you just have to know what you're doing.
Set the Arp Mode to "AsPlayed", go to mod matrix, and select Arpeggiator as source and Main Pitch as the destination, set the modulation factor to +12 or +24 (for one or two octave transposition upwards). If you set it to +24, try lowering the octave of all your oscs by -1, then, when you play middle C on you keyboard, the value of 64 in the arpeggiator is C3, value of 127 is C4, and 0 is C2. And you can transpose this pattern all over the keyboard

I don't know of any midi effects, neither in Live or Cubase that can do exactly what you're talking about, so I guess you'll just have to make with what you've got

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