Is Microsoft about to wipe Sony out the industry??
i found this report by Merrill Lynch about sony's pricing.
http://rsch1.ml.com/9093/24013/ds/276873_0.PDF

Sony will be selling their console for around $800
by the time the PS3 comes out in November Microsoft will definitly slash their price and to an already $499 Xbox 360 (my guess slash it to $399?)
thats half price, and not only that they're gonna be releasing their biggest game yet Halo 3 the same time the PS3 comes out.

will third party developers switch their focus from the PS to the xbox?
will Microsoft dominate this time around?
how is Sony gonna come out of this ditch?

Discuss

Last edited by Plump Funk on Apr-12-2006 at 01:54

1) No price point is official. Sony isn't run by morons. They want to be competitive so they'll try to do their best at pricing.

2) Core 360 = $299.99. Premium 360 = $399.99

3) There was no official release date for Halo 3. There's no information that even shows that it's being worked on. If anything, you'll see a release next year AFTER the release of the Playstation 3. If they DO happen to coincide, what difference would it make? Most gamers would purchase both.

4) There's WAAAAAAY too many factors that you didn't account for. Those questions lack educated-backing.

And finally, why didn't you even mention Nintendo? Your entire post would have to be changed around.

quote:

Originally posted by Yan 1) No price point is official. Sony isn't run by morons. They want to be competitive so they'll try to do their best at pricing. 2) Core 360 = $299.99. Premium 360 = $399.99 3) There was no official release date for Halo 3. There's no information that even shows that it's being worked on. If anything, you'll see a release next year AFTER the release of the Playstation 3. If they DO happen to coincide, what difference would it make? Most gamers would purchase both. 4) There's WAAAAAAY too many factors that you didn't account for. Those questions lack educated-backing. And finally, why didn't you even mention Nintendo? Your entire post would have to be changed around.

Well done m8... Well done.

___________________
last minute disco dot net

also if you consider that microsoft loses money everytime an xbox is sold, i highly doubt that it will take over the gaming industry.

they just don't have the licenses with the game companies to make an xbox even worth is; even if it is pretty powerful.

___________________
TX TA #97

whilst us PC gamers sit back and laugh at all the console fanboys and their ridiculous arguments over different systems

___________________

quote:

Originally posted by Yan 1) No price point is official. Sony isn't run by morons. They want to be competitive so they'll try to do their best at pricing. 2) Core 360 = $299.99. Premium 360 = $399.99 3) There was no official release date for Halo 3. There's no information that even shows that it's being worked on. If anything, you'll see a release next year AFTER the release of the Playstation 3. If they DO happen to coincide, what difference would it make? Most gamers would purchase both. 4) There's WAAAAAAY too many factors that you didn't account for. Those questions lack educated-backing. And finally, why didn't you even mention Nintendo? Your entire post would have to be changed around.

1) did you even read the report? the xbox360 doesn't have blue ray the PS3 will.

2) that slipped me i wrote the canadian pricing of the console now that its american dollars it backs me up even more.

3)read THIS even though the title contradicts what i'm saying it also states that Halo 3 is being worked on and it might be released either in NOV or with the summer release of the movie, btw we are talking about the whole market, companies bank on whats a bigger market to develope for, we've seen companies in the past jump shift from nintendo to sony remember a company called square soft who used to make exclusive games for nintendo?

4)care to elaborate?

now that you've mentioned it i went to check out Nintendo, and it turned out that they're releasing the Revolution the same time as the PS3, sounds like sony is in a bigger ditch.
and we all know that nintendo is all about loyal customers and would not try to control the market.


FYI i'm not bashing Sony, i'm just stating whats out there and curious of what others think, even thought i'm buying the the PS3 and the revolution and already have the xbox 360(not happy with it at the moment waiting for halo 3).

now can we leave the criticism aside and go back to the discussion.

quote:

Originally posted by Plump Funk 1) did you even read the report? the xbox360 doesn't have blue ray the PS3 will.

whats your point?

quote:

Originally posted by Plump Funk 2) that slipped me i wrote the canadian pricing of the console now that its american dollars it backs me up even more.

no it doesnt. its simple conjecture, nothing more. what the price of the PS3 will be when it finally gets released is anyone's guess, it will depend on a whole range of factors. i would leave that speculation to people eminently more qualified than yourself. also, consoles have never been there to make money, the money comes from the games, not the units. so taking a loss on each unit is acceptable to shore-up market share.

quote:

Originally posted by Plump Funk 3)read THIS even though the title contradicts what i'm saying it also states that Halo 3 is being worked on and it might be released either in NOV or with the summer release of the movie, btw we are talking about the whole market, companies bank on whats a bigger market to develope for, we've seen companies in the past jump shift from nintendo to sony remember a company called square soft who used to make exclusive games for nintendo?

MIGHT be released? mwahahaha. christ. youre basing your arguments on a whole load of balony. get a hard release date before dealing with fairy-land again.

quote:

Originally posted by Plump Funk now that you've mentioned it i went to check out Nintendo, and it turned out that they're releasing the Revolution the same time as the PS3, sounds like sony is in a bigger ditch. and we all know that nintendo is all about loyal customers and would not try to control the market. FYI i'm not bashing Sony, i'm just stating whats out there and curious of what others think, even thought i might end up buying the PS3, and already have the xbox 360(not happy with it at the moment waiting for halo 3) and definitely buying the Revolution. now that i feel like a nerd, can we leave the flaming aside and go back to the discussion.

youre forgetting all the solid sony fans that are eagerly awaiting the release of the unit. the PS1&2 were so popular they have created a loyal fan base all for themselves that wont be undermined simply coz they were beaten to the punch by a year or so.

listen to yan, the guys has been gaming for a bloody long time. he knows his shit.

___________________

i think next round is going to be very interesting

msft definitely has the first mover advantage, by the time ps3 comes out they'll have shipped almost 5million units. msft also has the advantage that it's not hinging it's box to a questionable technology, bluray, which may end up hurting sony b/c of it's price and lack of dominance (vs hd dvd) in next gen movie market.


another thing, is that msft's xbox live is really solid and established while sony has nothing to show for their online efforts. Gran turismo online? shea right.

___________________
hello thar

listen to yan

___________________
I PUT TRADEMARKS AROUND YO MOTHAFUCKIN EYE
JUST ME N YOU

not to mention the actual COST of the new machine may be near 800, just as the actual cost of the 360 is something like 500-600 dollars with the loss on sales to be made up in services and games.

its likely Sony will use the same idea, yet will likely be less easy to mod and pirate, unlike MS|

___________________
'That's like telling a Kodiak bear to stop fcking older men.'

The Golden Rule of Video Game Economics: Systems don't EVER make money.

Peripherals, and to a lesser extent games, are where the loot is.

So all this "Microsoft/Sony is going to be losing money on their system" conjecture is really moot at this point.

And as previously stated, listen to Yan.

___________________
last minute disco dot net

yeah even if the ps3 is twice the price of the x-360 .it's totally worth it.which is doubt it's going 2 be that expensive.

ps3 has a 60gb hard drive 3 times the size of the one in the x-360
ps3 is going to be the most powerfull ,phisics,cell>3-cores,RSX>xeon.
ps3 will play blu-ray movies right of the box,360 ony play dvd's.
ps3 will be compatible with ps2,ps1 games ,360 compatible's games are very limited.
ps3 will have a free online service ,xbox has this pricey overated one.
ps3 will have the best games , xbox is working his way trwo it but i willl never even come close to the ps3 line-up.
ps3 will come right on tim e,360 was totally rushed ans the games arent really next gen.
ps3 games will have much better graphics than 360 games.

___________________



'' IN TRANCE WE TRUST ''.