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iLiptikalOrbitZ
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Registered: Oct 2005
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Video Card 4 Sale

ATI x850XT AGP 256mb videocard for sale
Brand New - Never Used
Selling for $250 CAD, worth $500

http://www.tranceaddict.com/forums/...threadid=340324


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psychosomatica
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Bump. Great Price. Also, the person who was asking about the WoW video card... get this... it's cheap and you'll be running WoW super smooth... provided the rest of your system is decent.


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If it's still in the box i'm interested.

One question, is it compatible with all AGP 4x motherboards?


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iLiptikalOrbitZ
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Yes it's in the box, but it has been opened. I have a good friend who works for ATI, and he has an overabundance of cards that he is given, so he gives them to me when he doesn't want them. I cant use it because I have a PCI-E motherboard (i'm hoping to find a FireGL in my comp soon )

quote:

Will my 8X AGP video card work in my 4x AGP slot?

This question is not answered as easily as it might seem. First let's establish a few things you need to know to answer this question.

What is AGP 2.0?
AGP 2.0 is a 1.5V AGP slot capable of 4x,2x and 1x speeds.

What is AGP 3.0?
AGP 3.0 is keyed like a 1.5V AGP 2.0 slot, but it only uses 0.8V of power. It supports 8X, 4X, 2X and 1X speeds.

Rule #1: Speeds are backwards compatible
AGP Speeds are required to be backwards compatible. This means that an 8X video card MUST be able to run at 4x, 2x, or 1x speeds. However, this does NOT necessarily mean that your 8X card will run on a 4x slot.

Signalling Voltage incompatibility
Because speeds must be backwards compatible, Signalling Voltage is where incompatibilities arise. Basically:

* All 8x cards are 0.8v AGP 3.0 spec
* 8x cards will fit in 1.5V slots, and can tolerate the voltage, but will NOT run properly
* 4x cards can be either 1.5V or 0.8V
* 2x and 1x cards are either 3.3V or 1.5V
* Except in the case of the 8X cards, using the wrong voltage card with the wrong motherboard can result in damage in card and board
* If you install a card of incompatible voltages with the motherboard's specs, the card will NOT run

The connectors on AGP video cards are keyed in such a way that you can only install equipment that have compatible Voltage keyed connectors. Normally the key of the card determines its signal voltage. AGP 1.0 and AGP 2.0 cards using a 1.5V key will signal at 1.5 volts. However, AGP 3.0 devices can tolerate 1.5V - they won't be destroyed, they just might not work properly.

The Bottomline
The bottomline is that your 8X video card can theoretically be safely TESTED in any 1.5V motherboard for compatibility. But if you know for a fact that your board only runs 1.5V AGP 2.0 spec and your 8X AGP 3.0 card runs only 0.8v spec, then the two should NOT be compatible one another. At the very least it will be unstable, if it runs at all. However, we've had a lot of users tell us that their AGP 8x cards work on 4x only motherboards. This is likely due to the fact that some AGP8X video cards are in fact universal 1.5V capable AGP3.0 cards that can run on either 1.5V or 0.8V (remember, AGP speeds are backwards compatible, only voltage incompatibilies cause problems).

source - http://www.neoseeker.com/Hardware/faqs/kb/10,63.html


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Hrm.. how do you find out your mobo specs without opening up the tower to look at the actual card?

Once I find out I can post my specs and we can see if the card is compatible.. I'll take it if it is.


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^^^

pc wizard is your answer

it gives u all the specs you'll ever need

http://www.cpuid.com/pcwizard.php


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iLiptikalOrbitZ
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I have found a couple sites that say that the videocard is compatible with 4x and 2x, but I'd double check your mobo specs first, just to be safe.


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Thanks smunky for the awesome link!

mobo specs - AGP Bus:

Bus Information :
Number of AGP connectors : 1

AGP Bus :
Device : 82850/E Host-Hub Interface Bridge Device
Version : 2.0
AGP enabled : Yes
Mode AGP3 : No
4GB : No
FW Transfer : Yes - Enabled
SideBand : Yes - Disabled
Command Queue : 1 (max. 32)
Transfert Rate supported : 4x
Transfert Rate : 4x

AGP Bus :
Device : GeForce3 Ti 200 [NV20.1]
Version : 2.0
AGP enabled : Yes
Mode AGP3 : No
4GB : No
FW Transfer : Yes - Enabled
SideBand : No
Command Queue : 32 (max. 32)
Transfert Rate supported : 4x
Transfert Rate : 4x

Bus Information :
Device : GeForce3 Ti 200 [NV20.1]


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quote:
AGP 2.0 is a 1.5V AGP slot capable of 4x,2x and 1x speeds.


Looks like my mobo supports AGP 2.0


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iLiptikalOrbitZ
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Looks like my mobo supports AGP 2.0


yep, which means it uses 1.5v.

basically we have to find out for sure if the videocard will run on 1.5v instead of it's normal 0.8v. I've found nothing so far that says this exactly, only review/overclocking sites that say it will run at 4x.


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When I checked the slot information for my mainboard I got:

Slot AGP 4X : In Use (32-bit) 3.3v


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quote:
Originally posted by iLiptikalOrbitZ
yep, which means it uses 1.5v.

basically we have to find out for sure if the videocard will run on 1.5v instead of it's normal 0.8v. I've found nothing so far that says this exactly, only review/overclocking sites that say it will run at 4x.


OK, if that vid card is native to 0.8v I don't wanna feck around with it...

Super card, but I really don't want to buy something that isn't 100% compatible with the mobo I have.


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